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Post by bobette on May 16, 2005 15:16:47 GMT -5
maybe it was once a secluded country villa but as the city expanded, it moved into the country and made it part of the town
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Post by SnicketFires on May 16, 2005 18:58:34 GMT -5
Or maybe there's more than one Baudelaire mansion. A Green Mansion in a city seems contradictory (though that of course doesn't rule it out). I like to envisage all the emerald Mansions as being secluded country villas. In this case the Baudelaires have probably never seen their Green Mansion-its existence was either kept a close secret, or it was burnt down in a separate fire before Violet's birth. I've never considered that before. I imagined the Green Mansions scattered around the City.
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Post by Dante on May 17, 2005 10:52:47 GMT -5
I imagined the green mansions as being scattered around Snicketland - some in the cities, some in the suburbs, some in the country, some in the mountains, some in the valleys - all over the place. I always thought of them as being like any other mansion - only green. And, you know, used for secret meetings.
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Post by Pester, Rumormonger on Jun 30, 2005 23:10:17 GMT -5
In the book, the green mansions themselves refer to a beautiful and deserted part of the jungle, where the canopy overhead makes vaulted roofs and are thick enough that the rain doesn't hit, so that he feels that he's in the most enormous, beautful Green Mansion.
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Post by Dante on Jul 1, 2005 2:21:27 GMT -5
I'm getting Green Mansions soon, by the way, so I'll watch out for an aSoUE-like things which we don't already know about.
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Post by Dear Dairy on Jul 2, 2005 22:47:29 GMT -5
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Post by jcgsebald on Jul 3, 2005 13:43:43 GMT -5
Thanks for sharing that with us Dear Dairy.
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Post by Dear Dairy on Jul 9, 2005 18:10:01 GMT -5
You're welcome. I hope it does someone some good. I have the book somewhere, but I've never read it. I found the link, but it's too uncomfortable to sit at my computer and read an entire novel.
If anybody reads it and finds out anything, let us know!
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Post by Dante on Jul 10, 2005 2:49:34 GMT -5
Oh, I did read it.
Without spoiling too much, the hero fled from civilisation after a failed attempt to take over the government. He then chose to spend time among the native savages in the forests, before eventually meeting a beautiful and mysterious woman in the forest. The man attempted to kill a snake, but was prevented from doing so by the woman. The snake later bit him, and he nearly died. Later on, he slays another, quite vicious-looking snake, and the memory of it haunts him. The fate of the mysterious and beautiful woman mirrors very much some events hinted at in aSoUE, but I don't want to spoil you.
The extract from Green Mansions quoted in the U.A. is from the prologue; the very beginning of the novel. And it's not so much a prologue, as the events described within take place after the end of the novel. The mysterious jar and the ashes contained within are all that the man has left of his time in the rainforests and their green mansions, and their story is one he keeps to himself, and never wishes to tell.
This could be used to link Olaf's possible henchman, "a man's life," to the hunt for the reptiles. He could also relate to Peru, though, or to Beatrice. The reptiles, though, are most likely.
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Post by Dear Dairy on Jul 10, 2005 23:48:58 GMT -5
It just sounds like a whole slew of allusions that were inspirational in developing Lemony's backstory. Quite a few parallels there, really. I'll have to read Green Mansions now (not to look for clues, just for parallels, and to learn the fate of the mysterious and beautiful woman).
Ashes in a jar, you say? Hmmmmm . . .
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Post by Shelly on Jul 17, 2005 21:55:42 GMT -5
Wow . . . I was thinking the very same. . .
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Post by notebooks222 on Jul 25, 2005 19:18:16 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure the houses actually are green coloured and that its not just a special trait of the wood. Somewhere in LSTUA it said something about a green door. I'm not sure where, unfortunately. Anyways has anyone seen the book or know how many pages it is? I'm envisioning a brittanica encyclopedia size. Am I correct? Also there was a movie made out of it. They showed it on TV not long ago. If you want to get the plot I recommend renting it for times sake. But if you read it I bet you'll get more details and Snickety things.
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Post by Dante on Jul 26, 2005 9:39:51 GMT -5
My copy has around 313 pages, in a fairly large type face.
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Post by Antenora on Jul 31, 2005 19:05:09 GMT -5
Having read Green Mansions, I concur on there being parallels to ASoUE in the mysterious woman's fate.
*Somewhat spoilerish matter*
The inscription referred to in the prologue is "Sin vos y siu dios y mi." I can get a vague idea of the meaning from the context(chapter 21), but I'm not sure how it would be translated precisely.
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Post by Dante on Aug 1, 2005 2:34:24 GMT -5
*spoiler-y reply to Antenora's post, although it's not really much of a spoiler* Using this site, I attempted to translate it. From Spanish to English, I get the result "Without vos and siu God and my." I thought it said in the book what it meant... I'll have to look at it again. Edit: Just checked. If it's in there, it's not obvious.
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