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Post by flameskullkid on Jan 11, 2007 21:03:23 GMT -5
In a July update from AuthorTracker, the book is said to include, "a note passed in class, a startling telegram, a coded sonnet, and a desperate plea for assistance between Snicket and Beatrice." It is also stated that the book "starts long before The Bad Beginning and extends far beyond The End." In fact the two correspondants are not writing back and forth. Lemony Snicket is obviously writing to the first Beatrice (the Baudelaire mother) and this takes place before the Bad Beginning. Actually, before Violet, Klaus and Sunny were even born. The letters from Beatrice, however, are written by the second Beatrice Baudelaire (Kit Snicket's daughter) and take place after "The End". When Lemony Snicket writes he mentions the Root Beer Floats that he and Beatrice share together, how much he loves her and hinted about what happened when he asked her hand in marriage. When Beatrice Baudelaire writes to Lemony Snicket she talks about how far away they are from each other and how they've never met. At the beginning of "The Beatrice Letters" Lemony Snicket mentions that he is eleven years old and the same age as Beatrice. Beatrice wouldn't have been a Baudelaire yet at the beginning of the book because she wasn't yet married to a Baudelaire. Alternatively, Snicket may just be disguised as an 11 year-old and may actually be a young adult. This may be the case as the language he uses in the first letter is not as complex as he writes in the books, yet some of the vocabulary he uses is far too advanced for an 11 year-old. Eg. "Your oral report on the history of the Sonnet." By the end of the book they both would have grown up and Beatrice would have been married to Bertrand Baudelaire, and become a Baudelaire herself. If at the beginning of the book Beatrice is already a Baudelaire then she must be the second Beatrice who was adopted by the Baudelaire orphans. At the end of the book Beatrice mentions that she is ten years old. Lemony Snicket is an adult at the end of the book so that would be another reason to assume that the letters are from another Beatrice.
and in the 13th book, the siblings sail off of an island on a boat named "Beatrice" So, the ship sinks, as it says in the anagram, and the Baudelaires and Kit's daughter, Beatrice, was separated from the siblings. So Beatrice #2 (daughter of kit) asks Lemony Snicket for his help in finding the Baudelaires.
Is it just me, or do you guys sense a sequel book the the Series Of Unfortunate Events?
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Post by Antenora on Jan 11, 2007 21:52:11 GMT -5
Flameskullkid, I've combined your posts, and please don't double post. I also noticed that you posted the exact same massive paragraph over here, where it's not entirely relevant to that thread's topic. Please try to avoid these things in future, as it seems like spamming. As for the advanced vocabulary in some of the letters that are supposedly from young people, we can assume that Lemony would certainly be very well-read at that age, and that Beatrice the Second probably would be too.(I knew the words "oral", "history", and possibly "sonnet" at age 11, anyway, and would have written like that if I felt a need to sound formal.) Especially if she were trying to imitate Snicket's style, which she might have been, as she seems to rather admire him. I should also note: I've seen a lot of people hoping that Handler will provide us with a sequel, book set after The End and dealing with the adventures of Beatrice the Second. I feel that TBL fills that role perfectly well.
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Post by MyKindEditor on Dec 27, 2009 12:10:50 GMT -5
I also got: K. A Base Cretin Maybe Kit upset Lemony at some point. If you use some letters (from the punch-outs) twice then you can get: 'Beatrice Snicket' Probably been said/obvious/of no use but it does relate to the family connection between Lemony and Beatrice II?
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Post by Christmas Chief on Dec 27, 2009 14:29:45 GMT -5
I don't think that would fit the requirements. An anagram is when each letter is used only once to make a new word or phrase. Using some of the letters twice would open not only hundreds of new possibilities, but defeat the purpose of the anagram itself. As for the relationship between Lemony and Young Beatrice, that's even more direct than the relationship between the Baudelaires and Young Beatrice. That is to say, the connection between Lemony and Young Beatrice is blood- Young Beatrice is Lemony's niece.
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Post by xasonadler on Aug 19, 2011 15:46:27 GMT -5
so we don't have FEAR nor DEER but DEAR. does that makes anymore sense??
So i guess DEAR + OF gives us DO FEAR. so this far we got BEATRICE SANK DO FEAR LEMONY SNICKET But the G from trainin sounds plausible. as for the LS signature, its formed by the cut out letters from the next to the letter to the editor page..so they might count or they might not...
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Post by Dante on Aug 27, 2011 15:37:39 GMT -5
xasonadler, since you clearly know how to use the Modify button, try and use that when you want to add something to your posts within only twenty-four hours. If nobody else has replied yet, it's proper form to expand your post with the Modify button, but once twenty-four hours have passed then you're welcome to try again.
To be honest, though, I think anything that doesn't come from the punch-out letters is a long shot. The L and the S are punched out before the final letter, it's true, but since we don't get to punch those letters out and rearrange them ourselves, they don't count. I think they're backing up what Lemony says in his final letter, about how he doesn't want to sign it because so many letters have gone missing. Even his own.
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Post by Vanja on Sept 26, 2011 8:07:04 GMT -5
I found an anagram for 'Beatrice sank': Kit's niece brat You may wonder where the 'it' of 'Kit' came from. It came from a letter 'a' which was unused in the 'Beatrice sank'. The 'A', as a punch out letter, (i think) looks like to joined letters, forming a presumed 'it'. Just imagine that a small 'i' is attached to a t by the 't's horizontal line. Then you form an upper case 'A'. Maybe I don't make sense. How about, "Niece, Kit's brat"? so we don't have FEAR nor DEER but DEAR. does that makes anymore sense?? I think you're adding an extra "d" to it.
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Post by B. on Oct 19, 2011 12:11:13 GMT -5
You can make "Can I ask....." or "I can ask...." and then I' lost.
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