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Post by Cream of Silk on Jun 24, 2008 12:12:20 GMT -5
Okay. I have just thought of a GREAT theory. I thought that it was a little strange that Lemony had the letters that he sent TO Beatrice, but not FROM her. Shouldn't it be the other way? And the letters he sent aren't photocopied, since the note from "R" is attatched to one. SO maybe Lemony's entire relationship with Beatrice is IN HIS HEAD, and never really happened! It totally fits! Comments anyone? Welcoming replies!
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Post by shadowman080 on Jun 24, 2008 13:03:41 GMT -5
*runs up two flights of stairs, trips over the cat, cuts his arm, all to make it too his room were he finds his copy of TBL, them rushes back down stairs (falls down them), bandages hisself up opens book, types this, and begins to read.*
Now to prove you wrong:
The note mentioned is in LS to BB #4. The note is addressed to Beatrice, and R (duchess) hopes Beatrice well, therefore R. attempted to deliever the letter to Beatrice, but I am not sure that it made it.
And Letter LS to BB #5 kind of blows a massive hole in this theory, since Beatrice has responed to Lemony with a 200 page letter saying why she will not marry him.
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Post by Cream of Silk on Jun 24, 2008 13:05:22 GMT -5
Yes, but it never shows the letter from Beatrice. Therefore, it could still be possible that Lemony has just imagined sending these letters, and imagined getting replies. I think he was watching Beatrice from afar and was wishing that she liked him. This also leads to me believing that maybe Lemony Snicket was the one who burned down the Baudelaire mansion because he was jealous of Bertrand. Anyone have something to say or add?
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Post by shadowman080 on Jun 24, 2008 13:22:36 GMT -5
Well you can't dismiss that letter LS to BB #4 was sent, and intercepted by R. who atempted to send it to Beatrice, it could have been returned.
But this raises the question if the Beatrice that Lemony Snicket loved was the Baudelaire's mother. Since in LS2BB5 and Iquote,"I embarressed you by telling you that, in frount of R. and B. and the others." This needs it own tread...
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Post by Cream of Silk on Jun 24, 2008 13:24:15 GMT -5
Perhaps Lemony just imagined that the letter was intercepted, because how else would he have gotten his hands on these letters, with that note still on them?
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Post by Dante on Jun 24, 2008 13:34:22 GMT -5
I think some things you have to accept, no matter how unrealistic they are, as just a way of making the books interesting. It's like asking how Lemony's research on the Baudelaires is so accurate - you just have to accept that he's an extremely good researcher, and leave it at that. The BBRE goes some way to justifying this by giving excerpts from some of his interviews of witnesses.
I think there's a solution to this one, though. In LS to BB #5, Lemony and Beatrice return items each gave to the other - a ring and a lock of hair. Is it so implausible that Lemony also returned the letters Beatrice sent to him, and she returned the letters he sent to her? That's why he has the letters he sent, but not the ones she sent.
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Post by Cream of Silk on Jun 24, 2008 13:37:58 GMT -5
That is a good point, I have to admit. However... why would they have done that? Why would they have wanted to have the letters that they themselves wrote? Wouldn't they have just destroyed all memory? Also, Lemony wouldn't have LS to BB #5, since he sent that after the letters were returned, right? Something just, to me, seems to say that Beatrice never even acknowledged Lemony. Perhaps she even thought he was an annoyance. I'm open to comments, though. I could definitely be wrong. It does seem a little far-fetched.
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Post by Sixteen on Jun 24, 2008 14:47:08 GMT -5
Something I found in Lemony's letter to the editor:
"Strange as it may seem, I still hope for the best, even though the best, like an interesting piece of mail, so rarely arrives, and even when it does it can be lost so easily."
This might mean that he has lost Beatrice's letters. It's also possible that she never replied to any of the letters that we see. #1 was an invitation. #2 was written a few hours before they were supposed to meet. #3 arranges a meeting for root-beer floats. #4 implies that the bats were unreliable as message-carriers and so could have lost her reply. #5 occurs after she has written a book to Lemony. #6 is written at a time when she refuses to speak to him.
I think it is a nice theory, but there are also arguments against it.
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Post by Cream of Silk on Jun 24, 2008 14:50:16 GMT -5
Well, that's true. But why would HE have HER messages? Oh. And this could be off topic, but do you think that "My Kind Editor" is an anagram? It seems to me that it is.
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Post by Sixteen on Jun 24, 2008 14:52:47 GMT -5
I don't understand what you're asking. He would have her messages if she sent them to him.
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Post by Cream of Silk on Jun 24, 2008 14:53:15 GMT -5
No, the ones he sent to her. If they did in fact send back each other's letters, or at least she sent back his after she refused to marry him, why wuld he have the telegraph that Lemony sent long after?
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Post by Sixteen on Jun 24, 2008 15:00:32 GMT -5
It's a good question, but as Dante said, we have to presume that he's a brilliant researcher.
"For many years I have collected all these letters and their accompanying ephemera -"
It implies that he went to a lot of trouble trying to find them.
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Post by Cream of Silk on Jun 24, 2008 15:02:07 GMT -5
That's true. I was wondering too if the telegram was not sent professionally because they spelled "Independent" wrong. That could mean that Lemony made a fake (?) which could answer that question. And I really do think that "My Kind Editor" is an anagram: but for what? Open to discussion. Also, if anyone has something to add or say about my theory of Lemony and Beatrice's realtionship being just inside Lemony's head.
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Post by jman on Jun 26, 2008 19:21:13 GMT -5
Is this just a thread for randomness? You keep asking different questions, but the thread was supposed to be about your theory. Am I allowed to just ask a random question?
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Post by Cream of Silk on Jun 27, 2008 7:37:08 GMT -5
Is this just a thread for randomness? You keep asking different questions, but the thread was supposed to be about your theory. Am I allowed to just ask a random question? Good point.
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