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Post by thesnicketfile on Oct 4, 2008 15:10:41 GMT -5
Well, I'm new to this forum and I propose an idea. Near the end of The End, it says, "Beatrice is hidding a small amount of horseradish in a vess-". I know this has been discussed before, but do you think that possibly some horseradish is one of the things in the sugar bowl? For those of you who don't know, the sugar bowl is also known as a Vessel For Disaccharides. It's possible that it's just a sugar bowl and not THE sugar bowl. But this is the thread to officially decode and find the sugar bowl.
We all know that the man in the taxi took the sugar bowl. My thought was that man could possibly be Snicket. Who do you think he is? Where could he have possibly taken it?
And i have another unanswered question. Did the sugar bowl ever wind up on the island that was in The End? Everyone comments how everything ends up there eventually. Has it been there? Possibly the sugar bowl was thrown away by one of the islanders at one time, and then the Baudelaire parents came. They could have retrieved the bowl, although it does say that Beatrice and Lemony stole the sugar bowl from Esme.
Well anyways, talk! I wanna start finding this sugar bowl.
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Post by Dante on Oct 4, 2008 15:44:18 GMT -5
Good ideas. Other people have had a two-year or more head-start to propose them, but they're still good ideas. Here are my responses:
1. Horseradish in a "vess" - some people have taken this to refer to the sugar bowl, but I disagree; Olaf and V.F.D. were searching for the sugar bowl long before anyone knew that the Medusoid Mycelium still existed, and if it didn't exist, horseradish wouldn't be nearly so significant. Besides, V.F.D. has a whole factory for making horseradish. I think it more probable that the "vess" in question is the old clay container full of beans that Sunny found aboard the Beatrice - with the horseradish concealed at the bottom of the pot below heaps and heaps of beans, so that nobody would notice it at first glance, an old trick. Back when that pot was packed by Bertrand and Beatrice when they left the island, the Medusoid Mycelium was clearly still a potential threat, or they'd never have hybridised the apple antidote. This was around the time Anwhistle Aquatics burnt down, I think.
2. I agree that the taxi-driver is almost certainly Snicket, and for that matter, I think the woman in the trunk acquired the sugar bowl for him and is the "swimming woman" referred to in TGG. The taxi-driver is also described identically to the taxi-driver in Chapter One of TWW - are they the same person? Was that Snicket, too, even then? As for where he would have taken the sugar bowl - I think Lemony used the evidence within to clear his name, which explains how he is able to publicly keep an office in the time of The Beatrice Letters rather than being run out of the city by an angry mob.
3. I don't think the sugar bowl wound up on the island, but I think it certainly could have, and indeed whoever threw it from the Mortmain Mountains headquarters may have intended it to. Instead, it ended up in Gorgonian Grotto thanks to the ocean currents, but nobody knows when it was removed from there or who by, although presumably whoever removed it placed it into the care of the carrier crows to deliver to the Hotel Denouement. (In addition, that person wasn't the swimming woman - she was in the grotto moments before the Baudelaires, and Lemony hinted the sugar bowl had been taken away quite some time before.)
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Post by thesnicketfile on Oct 4, 2008 16:00:43 GMT -5
^ Quite interesting. I have never thought about it like that. I've been giving alot of thought into the sugar bowl the last few weeks so I wanna hear some theories that might help us all connect the dots.
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Post by thedoctororwell on Oct 12, 2008 15:23:31 GMT -5
I just want to say that I find the theory about the vessel being the clay jar absolutely brillant. As much seductive as it could be, the theory according to which the sugar bowl contains the antidote makes no sense whatsoever..
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