|
Post by Very Funky Disco on Apr 6, 2009 17:27:24 GMT -5
Do you think that, in universe, the hospital was actually named after Henry Heimlich - or do you think it was merely an out of universe allusion to Henry Heimlich?
It was still under construction - so, thus, it seemed to be quite new.
|
|
|
Post by Felix -Subject to Change on Apr 6, 2009 19:55:15 GMT -5
I'd say it was an allusion, but it's possible.
|
|
|
Post by Mijahu on Apr 6, 2009 22:42:05 GMT -5
It could have been named after the Heimlich maneuver itself. I think this is more likely, but if the Heimlich maneuver exists in the aSoUE universe (and I see no reason for it not to), then it was most likely created by Henry Heimlich.
|
|
|
Post by Dante on Apr 7, 2009 6:36:22 GMT -5
I have this question about a lot of the literary and historical allusions in the series. Given the well-read and expert nature of V.F.D., it seems they should be familiar with a lot of what can seem like just a casual allusion. Do the Baudelaires recognise that they share a name with a poet, for example? The issue is avoided in TGG despite the fact that the Baudelaires read the poem, including the very quote, which "briny beach" came from. This is also one reason why I consider the names Olaf uses for his disguises to be stock names created by V.F.D. for those disguises - Olaf might not be familiar with the allusion in "Detective Dupin," but I think V.F.D. might be. (I think there's at least one more piece of evidence for this, which some of you will no doubt recall, but I don't think this is the place.) To answer your question: I think it entirely possible that Heimlich Hospital is named, in-universe, after Heimlich, but it doesn't have to be.
|
|
|
Post by Hermes on Apr 7, 2009 9:34:38 GMT -5
This is also one reason why I consider the names Olaf uses for his disguises to be stock names created by V.F.D. for those disguises - Olaf might not be familiar with the allusion in "Detective Dupin," but I think V.F.D. might be. (I think there's at least one more piece of evidence for this, which some of you will no doubt recall, but I don't think this is the place.) To answer your question: I think it entirely possible that Heimlich Hospital is named, in-universe, after Heimlich, but it doesn't have to be. I dislike the whole idea of stock disguises - it leaves us with the problem how they could deceive members of VFD, and it also reduces the ingenuity both of Olaf and of the good guys. Still, it's undoubtedly canon, and if we swallow it we might as well swallow stock names as well. (But Olaf did attend VFD training school, and may have picked up some bits of knowledge at the moments he wasn't writing obscene anagrams.)
|
|
|
Post by Ernist on Feb 10, 2011 11:13:59 GMT -5
who was henry hmilech?
|
|
|
Post by Christmas Chief on Feb 10, 2011 11:25:47 GMT -5
He was the person who came up with the Heimlich maneuver, as well as a few other contributions in the medical field; it's this that makes it plausible that the hospital's name alludes to him.
|
|
|
Post by Leanora Crowe on Feb 10, 2011 14:25:45 GMT -5
I believe it's more of an allusion to the Heimlich maneuver than its discoverer, personally. But I understand that it could be either way, because Lemony does seem to enjoy alluding to important people. I doubt it was meant to have been named after the actually gentleman, however.
|
|
|
Post by Very Funky Disco on Feb 26, 2011 23:10:35 GMT -5
This would be one good reason for setting ASOUE in the 1970s, though. Although, I guess he was already famous in the late 1960s for his other discoveries.
|
|