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Post by thedoctororwell on Mar 17, 2011 15:29:31 GMT -5
However, if the Duchess really was on the island, we'd have to abandon the theory that she was the swimming woman from TGG and TPP, which also has a lot of evidence. I prefer to think she's the one who got the sugar bowl back...
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Post by Hermes on Mar 17, 2011 16:09:42 GMT -5
However, if the Duchess really was on the island, we'd have to abandon the theory that she was the swimming woman from TGG and TPP, which also has a lot of evidence. I prefer to think she's the one who got the sugar bowl back... I don't know - perhaps while swimming home with the sugar bowl, she was blown off course and landed on the island. |
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Post by thedoctororwell on Mar 18, 2011 3:43:35 GMT -5
Unlikely ; the Baudelaires and Olaf were the last persons to have ended up on the Island for quite a long time.
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Post by Hermes on Mar 18, 2011 14:51:07 GMT -5
Unlikely ; the Baudelaires and Olaf were the last persons to have ended up on the Island for quite a long time. I think you mean 'first persons'. Are we told that? If it's true it messes up one of my favourite fanfics. |
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Post by Christmas Chief on Mar 18, 2011 15:06:11 GMT -5
We're told by Ishmael, after Friday brings the Baudelaires back to the tent. ("We haven't had new islanders in quite some time. You're welcome to stay as long as you'd like, unless you're unkind, of course.")
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Post by Hermes on Mar 18, 2011 15:51:45 GMT -5
That's annoying. (I'm thinking of Dante's Memories of a Castaway, which has Omeros, Jonah and Sadie arriving on the island while the events of ASOUE are already going on.)
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Post by Vanja on Aug 11, 2011 8:57:33 GMT -5
Well, perhaps they are codewords for the hierarchy within the organization. For instance, 'King' and 'Queen' could be used for the two most senior members, 'Count' and 'Countess' could be two less important members, and the same goes for Baron, Duke, Lord, possibly Emperor, possibly President, etc. Although I'm starting to lose faith in the theory seeing as there are only two confirmed instances of this being used - Duchess R & Count Olaf. The King of Arizona was briefly mentioned by Esme - perhaps he is a V.F.D. villain, considering he was meeting with her? Continuation of what you said, I think it would make sense if the "Arizona" and "Winnipeg" stand for their "jurisdiction" within the organization. So The King of Arizona would be the highest member within V.F.D. in Arizona or he is the highest member within the organization and is located in Arizona, either way would make sense. It could have been a way of communicating within the organization without non-members realizing who they were talking about. Count Olaf's title, might have been used to identify him without giving up his real identity before the schism, therefore explaining how the Baudelaire's guardians never knew who Count Olaf was, although they were members of V.F.D. themselves. As for most of the V.F.D. members not referred to with title, the titles might have been discontinued after the schism, seeing as it was unnecessary because the fire-fighting and fire-starting were each other's enemies and the titles were probably common knowledge within the organization. Some members may have kept their titles though. |
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Post by andressa on Aug 11, 2011 12:32:44 GMT -5
I don't remember their name right now, but there are Winnipeg children in TSS. Couldn't be them?
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Post by Dante on Aug 11, 2011 15:39:30 GMT -5
Unfortunately, that doesn't work for the same reason R.'s unlikely to be around - the islanders say that nobody had arrived before the Baudelaires in some time, but TSS only takes place a few days before that. It's a good idea, though.
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Post by Vanja on Aug 12, 2011 6:13:43 GMT -5
But if there are Winnipeg children, there may be two parents, right?
What if R's husband was the "Winnipeg" they were talking about?
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Post by Dante on Aug 12, 2011 9:10:57 GMT -5
Or R. could be the aunt of the Winnipeg children, and it could be either of their parents, one of whom would be R.'s younger sibling.
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