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Post by colette on Jan 8, 2011 13:31:24 GMT -5
How do you think where was Kit Snicket while Baudelaires were in the hotel? I suspect she could be in the hotel, too, because she was on the TPP cover. The woman with blonde hair who is wearing glasses could be only Kit. what about the Captain Widdershins and The Great Unknown, she could learn about it from Phil or somebody else. Was she in the ocean or in the hotel? What do you think?
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Post by Dante on Jan 8, 2011 14:34:41 GMT -5
From her recollections in The End, and what she herself said she was going to do in TPP, she was on the sea, probably collecting the various members of Fiona's family together to help combat the eagles. Her apparent presence on the cover is probably either non-canonical - that is, it's a cover that conflates a number of events into one scene, so her presence on the cover reflects the fact that she's in the book but not in the hotel - or mistaken identity on our part. If you compare the character on the cover to Helquist's illustration of Kit in Chapter Two, the two are actually quite different.
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Post by colette on Jan 8, 2011 16:54:32 GMT -5
From her recollections in The End, and what she herself said she was going to do in TPP, she was on the sea, probably collecting the various members of Fiona's family together to help combat the eagles. Dante, understand me please but Kit's words doesn't this is true. She could tell lies. She could be Olaf's associate. I am not shure but it can be true. And many people indentified the woman from the cover and Kit Snicket, not only me. So I think everything is possible. You can be right, I agree. Kit Snicket can be really in ocean and her words can be true. But I think that my theory isn't unrealistic one, too. But it is very to talk about the theories, isn't it |
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Post by Christmas Chief on Jan 8, 2011 18:44:57 GMT -5
Dante, understand me please but Kit's words doesn't this is true. She could tell lies. She could be Olaf's associate. I am not shure but it can be true. And many people indentified the woman from the cover and Kit Snicket, not only me. So I think everything is possible. You can be right, I agree. Kit Snicket can be really in ocean and her words can be true. But I think that my theory isn't unrealistic one, too. But it is very to talk about the theories, isn't it Where do you get the implication Kit was lying? I think there's far more evidence to the contrary, really; she even describes her exploits in great detail in The End. The only thing I can think of that would imply her dishonesty is the cover, which one might argue (and Dante already has) isn't really evidence at all. |
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Post by colette on Jan 9, 2011 2:41:58 GMT -5
I didn't argue with Dante. We only shared by theories with each other! I don't think I was right. I can make mistakes but it very interesting to think about different ideas and theories, don't you think?
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Post by Dante on Jan 9, 2011 5:29:39 GMT -5
I see, so you're wondering if there's more to Kit's activities than meets the eye. What do you think she might have been doing in the hotel?
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Post by Christmas Chief on Jan 9, 2011 7:33:43 GMT -5
I didn't argue with Dante. We only shared by theories with each other! I don't think I was right. I can make mistakes but it very interesting to think about different ideas and theories, don't you think? Oh, I didn't mean that kind of arguing; I just meant the raising of different points. Yes, it's always healthy and usually interesting to look at all the different interpretations of what could have happened, and I agree yours is possible--I just find it rather unlikely. Did you notice anything else to make you think Kit wasn't completely trustworthy? |
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Post by colette on Jan 12, 2011 15:57:38 GMT -5
At first, Kit was Count Olaf's bride.At the second, it is impossible that each of three freaks arrived to the places where was one of the Baudelaires and didn't know where were Baudelaires. Especially, I can't understand how could Colette appear on the sixth floor where was Klaus. I think she knew about Baudelaires in the hotel. How could she know? And the onliest persons who knew about Baudelaires were Kit Snicket, Dewey Frank. Frank and Dewey hadn't any visible reasons to help Count Olaf. But kit Snicket had - she loved him. And at last, we understood in TPP that carnival freaks knew Baudelaires' first names. But how? I see, so you're wondering if there's more to Kit's activities than meets the eye. What do you think she might have been doing in the hotel? Dante, I think that Kit Snicket could do many things. I suspect that the idea with crows, the harpoon gun and the window of sauna belongs to Kit. My thoughts are: Before the hotel Kit sent a message with her idea to Esme. Esme adviced her to take Baudelaires to the hotel. Kit arrived to the hall some minutes later that orphans and she was hidding while Baudelaires were talking about their plans. Then Kit found all three freaks and told them where are children. |
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Post by Dante on Jan 12, 2011 17:48:31 GMT -5
Firstly, colette, please remember to use the Modify button to add to your posts. You can copy and paste Quote content.
The fact is that it's quite clear that it's been a long time since Kit and Olaf were in any kind of relationship; at the present time, Kit and Dewey are clearly romantic partners, as are Olaf and Esmé. If Kit did love Olaf, why would she help Esmé, a rival for Olaf's love, and why would Esmé help her? Furthermore, the villainous Ernest was almost certainly also aware that the Baudelaires were in the hotel, and Olaf names Ernest as one of his associates; Ernest would've kept him informed of the Baudelaires' presence and any of their suspected actions. As an associate of Olaf, Ernest would also be involved with Colette's spying activities and would be able to bring her to within Klaus's vicinity, although personally I think it's evident that the freaks were sent to roam the hotel and watch out for any events of interest and just happened to stumble across the Baudelaires. In addition, there's simply no reason why Olaf and his associates wouldn't have told the freaks the Baudelaires' first names; those names must have been used freely in the freaks' presence throughout TSS.
I'm not sure I really understand Kit's motives here. She rejects Olaf quite openly in The End.
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Post by colette on Jan 15, 2011 6:30:59 GMT -5
But may be Kit wanted to help Count Olaf and Esme. May be she did it to proof him she really loves him more than Esme. She hoped that Count Olaf will be greatful and he will leave Esme. And I can't believe that Colette met Klaus suddenly. I'd can believed if Violet and Sunny didn't meet any freaks. I think that Colette knew where is Klaus. But Ernest couldn't know this. And Frank and Dewey hadn't any reasons to help Count Olaf. But to proof her lover partner her strong love to him is a very big reson to help him. Don't you think&
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Post by Dante on Jan 15, 2011 9:41:37 GMT -5
It's entirely possible that Ernest was the hotel manager who despatched the Baudelaires off around the hotel. He could've predicted from there where Sir and Charles would want to go, or he could've sent Colette to trail Klaus the whole way around. Or it could just be a coincidence, since the villains' plan required them to work in the sauna anyway. I'm afraid I don't really see the difference between Kit overhearing where the Baudelaires were going and Ernest or Colette overhearing where they were going, and in any case Klaus went to the sauna after he first went to Sir and Charles's room, so Kit wouldn't have known he was going to the sauna if she'd just been listening in from the lobby.
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Post by colette on Jan 17, 2011 12:24:54 GMT -5
May be, Kit went to the sixth floor and she was sitting in the vase or in the nearest room and then she she talked to Colette by the mobile phone. Freaks possible had mobile phones.
but it so interesting to think what really happened in the hotel.
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Post by Dante on Jan 17, 2011 14:57:04 GMT -5
I must admit, I hadn't considered the possibility that Kit might be sitting in a vase. She's certainly willing to go to great lengths for a man who killed one of her brothers and forced the other into hiding.
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Post by colette on Jan 25, 2011 13:23:12 GMT -5
I disagree, Dante. It is very strange that three freaks wanted to help a villian who tried to murder them by pushing into the pit but he helped him. perhaps, Kit forgave everything to Olaf
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