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Post by andressa on Nov 11, 2011 18:15:07 GMT -5
I was rereading TGG, and something that I haven't actually paid attention in the first time I read, got me. Lemony says Fiona's mother didn't die in an accident with a manatee and that Fiona suspected of this. There's anything related with this in the other books that I haven't noticed ? Or maybe does anyone has any theories or ideias ? Maybe she was dead in a fire like everybody from V.F.D who died ?
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Post by Dante on Nov 12, 2011 5:29:15 GMT -5
It's slightly ambiguous; Widdershins says she died in a manatee accident early on, and Fiona immediately states that she doesn't think it was an accident, while Snicket says that she didn't die in a manatee accident. The two are actually contradictory; Fiona seems to think that a manatee was nonetheless involved in her mother's death, while Snicket seems to think the whole incident didn't cause her death at all. It's never referred to before or again, though.
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Post by B. on Nov 12, 2011 5:45:38 GMT -5
Another thing for us to speculate on......I always thought that Captain Widdershins used the "mantee accident" excuse to cover up something else......
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Post by Invisible on Nov 12, 2011 9:43:48 GMT -5
I thought that as well. I believe she died in the fire at Anwhistle Aquatics.
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Post by B. on Nov 12, 2011 10:04:43 GMT -5
or perhaps she's still alive.....somewhere......
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Post by Hermes on Nov 12, 2011 13:32:47 GMT -5
or perhaps she's still alive.....somewhere...... I think it's possible she is the swimming woman; seeing her again might give the captain enough of a shock to make him desert his post. Lemony says the captain was wrong to think his wife died in a manatee accident (as part of a list of things he was wrong about), so it seems he did indeed think that. I think the way it is put is sufficently vague to leave it uncertain whether there was a manatee incident of some sort; the way Fiona puts it certainly suggests there was. |
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Post by B. on Nov 12, 2011 13:42:01 GMT -5
That's an interesting theory- I never thought of it.
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Post by andressa on Nov 28, 2011 13:38:55 GMT -5
Thanks for sharing your thoughts guys.
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Post by B. on Nov 28, 2011 16:30:31 GMT -5
Andressa, great to have you back!  |
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Post by andressa on Nov 29, 2011 7:13:50 GMT -5
B. : Thanks for the warm reception!
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Post by colette on Apr 30, 2012 10:11:31 GMT -5
In my ficverse Renata Widdershins(in my head canon Fiona's mother's name was Renata) died in the Great Uknown.
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Post by friendofvfd on May 22, 2012 20:24:01 GMT -5
"I think it's possible she is the swimming woman; seeing her again might give the captain enough of a shock to make him desert his post."
That's actually a very interesting theory. I haven't thought of that before. But wasn't that Duchess R? A lot of other people seem to think it was her. But Mrs. Widdershins is an interesting theory as well.
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Post by Dante on May 23, 2012 2:12:16 GMT -5
That's actually a very interesting theory. I haven't thought of that before. But wasn't that Duchess R? A lot of other people seem to think it was her. But Mrs. Widdershins is an interesting theory as well. I don't think there's actually any positive evidence in favour of it being R. - it's more a case of it being an opportunity to get her into the story. It was a more compelling theory back when we thought we might actually meet the swimming woman, but in the end we didn't, so it probably doesn't matter. |
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Post by A on May 23, 2012 3:02:17 GMT -5
The swimming woman has always got me confused, and I was thinking that she might have been Kit or Esme for some random and unknown reason. There are many women that Madame Swim, as I have decided to call her could be, but Madame Swim being Mrs Widdershins is a better idea. It is very annoying though, how CW keeps on hiding things from Fiona.
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Post by vbaudelaire on Nov 2, 2012 9:11:08 GMT -5
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