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Post by Hermes on Apr 4, 2012 9:14:53 GMT -5
(Can't do images, I'm afraid - can someone please upload it?) Moderator Edit: Okay!Well, well, well. So: - the teasers certainly haven't stopped. - we seem to be back to the 'why, who, where, when...' pattern. - this has the clearest link with ASOUE of anything yet - bells ringing have strong VFD asociations, through Sebald code.
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Post by B. on Apr 4, 2012 9:28:07 GMT -5
Here we are. The subject line definitely suggests sebald code, whereas the text accompanying the image seems to say that some time will be spent underwater- in a submarine or a diving suit to go that deep, I imagine. This again ties into the sea related idea, which links to the great unknown. As for the image below I have no idea what it is- an alarm perhaps?
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Post by Dante on Apr 4, 2012 9:34:43 GMT -5
Shouldn't we be flipping out a little more about the fact that the item being illustrated here is clearly a pendulum-clock version of the statue? But more than that, not only is Lemony dropped from a great height, it looks like he'll be plunged below the ocean as well! I'm starting to think that WCTBATH must be actually quite decently long - and marine expeditions definitely recall to me the aquatic worlds of TGG and even TWW. I had a crazy theory a while back that the "fading town" was the town of Lake Lachrymose, and I'm having to fight the urge to start genuinely believing that.
Edit: Could the new pattern be every Wednesday? That was when our last promo came through - and at around the same time, too. Watch out next Wednesday at 1500 GMT!
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Post by Invisible on Apr 4, 2012 9:37:25 GMT -5
This is slightly off-topic, but that seahorse clock is adorable! ;D By the way, Brunch, I've noticed that you've been typing "defiantly," when you really mean "definitely." Just so you know
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Post by Dante on Apr 4, 2012 9:46:48 GMT -5
Calming down to think about this a bit more. The subject line is another WH question, suggesting that that is a pattern, in which case we have WHat and HoW to wait for in the future - the next two Wednesdays, maybe. The subject line also suggests Sebald Code; however, the illustration is apparently of a clock with an alarm. (Oh, that's the answer to the question, it's just eleven o' clock. But day or night?) The picture text doesn't seem to be connected to either; however, the clock is clearly representing the same being as the statue, and if that's the case, both may be representative of actual underwater beings, and may be linked to the apparently marine context of this teaser.
So we have a statue of what we think is an aquatic being - and a clock of what we think is an aquatic being - and they may represent an actual aquatic being. And maybe that's a special kind of creature, or maybe it's just been chosen as a theme and there are even more important things based on it... I know people were jumping to the Great Unknown as a link before. I think that jump is getting easier to make.
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Post by Antenora on Apr 4, 2012 10:54:51 GMT -5
My first thought was "croc clock," since it looks kind of like the crocs from the comic strip Pearls Before Swine: But the connection to the statue is more relevant, and intriguing. Is this sea-monster/dragon/seahorse/whatever some kind of mascot? Quite a few of our clues so far have involved aquatic creatures, so that tells us something about the setting of (at least part of) the book. My second thought was that the bell was actually connected to a gauge, and would ring when the pressure reached a certain threshold (as implied by the dialogue), instead of marking the time. The dialogue suggests a submarine trip, and the second conversational turn is pretty obviously spoken by someone unfamiliar with submarine travel and its associated hazards-- perhaps Lemony himself? Obviously there's a lot of context we can currently only guess at, such as the two possible events/actions implied by "otherwise."
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Post by B. on Apr 4, 2012 11:20:43 GMT -5
Not counting the drop everything promotion and the cover- we've had three: The statue, Ellington Feint and the octopus. This promotion links in with the first one. Will the next two link in with Ellington Feint and the octopus respectively?
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Post by jman on Apr 4, 2012 11:22:59 GMT -5
I kind of hope that not all the book takes place in a submarine, since we already did that with TGG. Some time underwater would be welcome though.
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Post by Dante on Apr 4, 2012 11:26:07 GMT -5
I'm not worried about that, jman - a submarine is not a fading town. I think it'll be a diversion or excursion, rather like whatever sees Lemony dropped from a great height, but not the status quo.
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Post by jman on Apr 4, 2012 11:51:05 GMT -5
Yeah, that's right. I forgot about it taking place in a fading town. This series seems like it'll hop around between locations during the books, as opposed to ASOUE where each book took place in one setting.
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Post by Dante on Apr 4, 2012 11:58:22 GMT -5
I agree, and as I said above, I hope this means the story will be relatively long.
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Post by Poe's Coats Host Toast on Apr 4, 2012 12:18:01 GMT -5
I'm really excited that part of the book will be set underwater. The deep sea is probably the most mysterious place on earth--it fits perfectly in with the VFD. Also, this seems to coincide with the very short, but official Lemony Snicket bio that was published on his website (and was included as press release): "His family has roots in a part of the country which is now underwater ..." Maybe one can find one or two more clues in it as to what will happen in the new series, like: "The aftermath of the scandal was swift, brutal and inaccurately reported in the periodicals of the day." Very enigmatic, but it's something, and something is more than nothing. I think it's fascinating that Daniel Handler may have thought up many ideas and events of the upcoming series when he first started writing ASoUE.
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Post by Dante on Apr 4, 2012 12:31:02 GMT -5
Or be using many hints he dropped in ASoUE that he never thought he'd build upon - but which now have an arena in which to do so. Yes, it's very exciting to think that we might recognise some of the material from earlier mentions in ASoUE.
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Post by Hermes on Apr 4, 2012 12:58:00 GMT -5
I think the connection with Lake Lachrymose is very likely.
I'm less certain about the connection with the Great Unknown - if an aquatic being is involved the obvious one is the Lachrymose Leech (though someone in the headcanons thread suggested that the Leeches were the young of the GU). I'm not sure I want Mr Snicket to tell us what the GU is - though of course he could avoid telling us explicitly just by not using the words 'Great Unknown'.
That biography is interesting. One fact that strikes me is that L's childhood home is still standing, and has not, as one might expect, been burnt down.
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Post by Dante on Apr 4, 2012 13:11:30 GMT -5
I'm not sure I want Mr Snicket to tell us what the GU is - though of course he could avoid telling us explicitly just by not using the words 'Great Unknown'. I agree, and I'd be disappointed if it was explained as that's kind of against the whole point of the concept. But I think it's inevitable, given the material we're being presented, that people will come to that conclusion, so someone may as well voice it. It's hard to know what to believe - if someone had told me that TWW would turn out to be a crucial source for ATWQ's important first book I wouldn't have believed it, but there's circumstantial evidence for that as well. I think part of the reason this has started to become a certainty is that it's clear the statue isn't just an arbitrarily-chosen shape - it's part of a broader design decision that we're also seeing emerge in this delightful clock. Which means that whatever the original model is must be important.
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