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Post by Skelly Craig on Apr 3, 2013 10:32:01 GMT -5
As there has been talk about so many droppings of titles, here's an idea for one replacement: Best Fanfic (as in "series," as opposed to Story, which will in turn mean "one-shot story"). (Explanation for the poll options) |
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Post by Anka on Apr 3, 2013 11:12:33 GMT -5
I don't think that there would be so many possibilities for "Best Story" then. (?)
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Post by MisterM on Apr 3, 2013 11:16:58 GMT -5
Its a nice idea TC, but I agree with Anka. Although I prefer Best Fanfic to Best Story as a category title regardless.
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Post by B. on Apr 3, 2013 11:19:33 GMT -5
"Best fanfic" is essentially a pointless award, as there are only two ongoing serial fanfictions from this year which spring to mind. It's one of the other basically. Best Story gives everyone a much more equal opportunity.
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Post by Anka on Apr 3, 2013 11:26:45 GMT -5
Best Story is also for stories that are no fanfic, so that's maybe better. And remember that there's Best Story AND Best Writer, so two awards for writers.
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Post by Hermes on Apr 3, 2013 11:32:54 GMT -5
At one time I proposed a distinction between Best Fanfic and Best 667fic; however, this would only work if there were significant numbers of each, and at the moment there aren't, 667fics being dominant. (In the past few years it's been fanfics that were dominant; these things come and go.) In addition, there are some stories (e.g. Lemona's) that are both, and so we wouldn't know which award to nominate them for.
In any case, I think there is only one award (Most Active) which people are seriously considering dropping.
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Post by Skelly Craig on Apr 3, 2013 15:22:28 GMT -5
"Best fanfic" is essentially a pointless award, as there are only two ongoing serial fanfictions from this year which spring to mind. It's one of the other basically. Best Story gives everyone a much more equal opportunity. I guess if each chapter from a series is nominated separately as a story on its own. Because I thought that a series as a whole seems to have a much superior chance than just one short story. But if a series is not counted as a whole that would make it fair and square. Also one other award that sprung to mind: "Most Rebellious." I like the idea of such an award. |
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Post by Hermes on Apr 3, 2013 15:35:15 GMT -5
"Best fanfic" is essentially a pointless award, as there are only two ongoing serial fanfictions from this year which spring to mind. It's one of the other basically. Best Story gives everyone a much more equal opportunity. I guess if each chapter from a series is nominated separately as a story on its own. Because I thought that a series as a whole seems to have a much superior chance than just one short story. But if a series is not counted as a whole that would make it fair and square. It's true the award more often goes to series, but last years winner was a short story. How many short stories do we get, though? It may be that they don't win the award very often because there aren't enough of them. |
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Post by B. on Apr 3, 2013 15:43:46 GMT -5
"Best fanfic" is essentially a pointless award, as there are only two ongoing serial fanfictions from this year which spring to mind. It's one of the other basically. Best Story gives everyone a much more equal opportunity. I guess if each chapter from a series is nominated separately as a story on its own. Because I thought that a series as a whole seems to have a much superior chance than just one short story. But if a series is not counted as a whole that would make it fair and square. It's like...saying a tall person is better because there's more of them than a short person ya feel me? |
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Post by MisterM on Apr 3, 2013 15:46:20 GMT -5
Also, suing my series as an example. Would The Rise be counted seperately from The Man Who Tried To Kill Dante? Different story, same fic-verse. I personally would count it as one thing, but other people may thing of it as two different stories...
And what about if there was a one-shot short story that was part of a main series, would that be counted seperately?
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Post by Hermes on Apr 3, 2013 18:01:39 GMT -5
In 2011, both YASOUE and one of the stories in it were nominated.
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Post by Skelly Craig on Apr 4, 2013 10:06:17 GMT -5
I guess if each chapter from a series is nominated separately as a story on its own. Because I thought that a series as a whole seems to have a much superior chance than just one short story. But if a series is not counted as a whole that would make it fair and square. It's like...saying a tall person is better because there's more of them than a short person ya feel me? No, it's like saying a tall person has better chances to get picked for a basketball team than a short person, who is nevertheless much better at it than the aforementioned tall person. |
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Post by Anka on Apr 4, 2013 12:34:05 GMT -5
But wouldn't we have to have 3 story categories then? There are series things with several books out of several chapters, stories with only one "book" but more than one chapter, and short stories with only one part.
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Post by Skelly Craig on Apr 4, 2013 12:46:29 GMT -5
That seems to be overdoing it a little with the details. I think it'd work if we go in the other direction: have only one award, "Best Story," but redefine it, so that one-shot stories have the same chance as larger series, in that each single chapter of a longer story is counted as a single story (and only one can win). Then the spin-off books problem will be resolved as well.
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Post by Hermes on Apr 4, 2013 13:36:42 GMT -5
I don't like the idea of voting for individual chapters of stories - it's the story as a whole that one appreciates.
Separate awards for long and short fiction would make sense if we had large amounts of both - the Hugo science fiction awards, for instance, have four fiction categories, based on length - but we don't. And last years results show that short fiction, despite being in a minority, can win.
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