Antigone
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Post by Antigone on Apr 4, 2013 6:08:54 GMT -5
Could it be possible for Count Olaf to have had siblings at some point? Could he, just like the powdered white faced women (Hinted), the Baudelaires, the Quagmires and the Snickets be part of a larger family? If he did, could they too have been murdered by the Baudelaire parents, just like Olaf's mother and father? (I doubt this - I can't see the Baudelaire parents murdering children). Thoughts?
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Post by Dante on Apr 4, 2013 8:15:27 GMT -5
It was, for a time, speculated that the man with a beard but no hair and the woman with hair but no beard were Olaf's elder siblings. There's no positive evidence for it, but it seemed satisfying in some ways - having this kind of dark parallel to the comradely and supportive siblings we see elsewhere, with the elders having this cruel sway over their youngest brother. But in truth we know absolutely nothing, canonically, about Olaf having any siblings or not, so it's all speculation (unless ATWQ throws a spanner in the works, but again, pure speculation).
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Post by Hermes on Apr 4, 2013 9:08:24 GMT -5
The family tree in TUA seems to indicate a family of three siblings, M, N and O, of whom O might well be Olaf, though many people now think it is Olivia. That the sinister duo are his siblings has some plausibility - though if the woman had an infant servant before the schism, at which time it seems likely Olaf was a child, they must be quite a bit older than him. But of course well-spaced families are a feature of VFD.
I have always suspected that the Baudelaires' killing of Olaf's parents was accidental (which would fit La Forza del Destino, and indeed TPP itself). But in any case it looks as if O was an adult when his parents died (since Violet and Klaus were already around), so you don't need to worry about killing children.
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Post by Invisible on Apr 5, 2013 17:10:34 GMT -5
In my ficverse, Olaf did have a younger brother named Livius, but he died when he was a year old as a result of his haemophilia. Seeing as it's not exactly canon, it doesn't count. Oh, well  Olaf also had an unborn sister who died in the womb when he was 13/14. |
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Post by Anka on Apr 5, 2013 17:23:29 GMT -5
I think Olaf has 2 siblings just because everyone in VFD seems to have two siblings...
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Post by Tryina Denouement on Apr 6, 2013 1:26:10 GMT -5
I think Olaf has 2 siblings just because everyone in VFD seems to have two siblings... It seems. |
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Antigone
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Post by Antigone on Apr 6, 2013 5:24:06 GMT -5
If anyone would break that trend, it'd be Olaf Haha
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Post by Wrathful Writer on Apr 6, 2013 20:10:52 GMT -5
I think Olaf had two siblings, but I think that they are both dead, perhaps at his hands.
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Post by t on May 8, 2013 9:41:27 GMT -5
So far, as the pattern suggests, it would seem that Olaf would have siblings, gifted siblings like him. Determining the side of the two would be impossible, unless they were mentioned in one of the books and I failed to remember at the moment.
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Post by Anka on May 8, 2013 17:42:02 GMT -5
The sides can't be mentioned in the books, because the siblings aren't even mentioned.
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Post by Seymour Glass on Jul 18, 2013 18:19:49 GMT -5
I don't think Olaf had siblings.
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Post by M David Steel on Aug 20, 2014 18:36:09 GMT -5
Well not everyone, like with Betrand and Beatrice, or the baudelaire orphans would have had an actual auntie or uncle who they could go to. we never see anyone who is the brother or sister of violet klaus and sunnys late mom or dad and if there was, it would be an obvious move after the parents' deaths
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Post by Dante on Aug 21, 2014 2:03:54 GMT -5
You know, I don't think anyone ever considered that, if Olaf had living siblings, they'd be potential guardians. Now there's a fanfic for you - the Baudelaires are taken in by the other two judges of the High Court... Of course, it'd retcon TSS to Hell and back, but it'd probably have to be a what-if anyway considering how much more capable the sinister duo are than Olaf.
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Post by gliquey on Aug 21, 2014 14:08:57 GMT -5
You know, I don't think anyone ever considered that, if Olaf had living siblings, they'd be potential guardians. Now there's a fanfic for you - the Baudelaires are taken in by the other two judges of the High Court... Of course, it'd retcon TSS to Hell and back, but it'd probably have to be a what-if anyway considering how much more capable the sinister duo are than Olaf. Or forget the sinister duo and create any antagonistic sibling of Olaf to take in the Baudelaires. There's infinite potential for fanfic set after TBB and before TVV, but it could be quite satisfying knowing the guardian is someone related to the rest of the series. Call me thick, but I didn't actually realize that the first initials of the Snicket siblings were alphabetical (J, K, L) until I read it somewhere on this forum. I then noticed D/E/F for the Denouements, and I really love the idea of Olaf having M/N siblings (or P/Q siblings - you could even have the 'Q' stand for 'Quisling'). I'll hopefully be able to get ahold of TUA and read it soon - the family tree sounds intriguing. |
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Olaf also had an unborn sister who died in the womb when he was 13/14.
