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Post by isadorabaudelaire5 on Mar 27, 2016 18:34:12 GMT -5
When I read Jacques's letter to Jerome about not marrying Esme, I felt he was doing it, not only because she was evil, but because he loved him and they were maybe a couple, before Jacques would have went into the closet and married Esme for social standing. Jerome's letter struck me as him forcing himself to sound like a straight man talking to a friend (and he doesn't like conflict, so, maybe, he was implying he didn't want to fight with him again about their previous relationship) and it seems weird that he stayed with Esme, so the social standing thing makes sense. It would be cute to think that apartment was for more than fighting crime. It could have been their home.
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Post by lorelai on Mar 27, 2016 19:49:05 GMT -5
I've thought about this a lot and have different headcanons depending what I'm in the mood for. Them being together but having broken up by the time Esme's in the picture seems to be the only way to make the situation less sad.
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Post by isadorabaudelaire5 on Mar 27, 2016 21:29:38 GMT -5
I feel like they were maybe out to some people or Kit and Lemony knew, but Jerome felt like he had to hide who he is and he backed out, which resulted in a tearful argument, although they stayed friends (knowing they were in love). Maybe, they were in love, but never got to admit it. That's more sad, maybe.
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Post by lorelai on Mar 27, 2016 23:07:24 GMT -5
There are a lot of ways it could go, which makes it fun. You could fit Jerome's dislike of arguing into neither of them admitting their feelings; Kit, Lemony, and probably Beatrice since they were friends, could have argued with him about starting something (public or not) with Jacques, or even just being the one to admit it first. It certainly puts a new spin on Beatrice saying Jerome was never brave enough. Ok, is THAT too sad?
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Post by Dante on Mar 28, 2016 3:28:18 GMT -5
Much though it's an interesting reading of Jerome's cowardice and Jacques's lack of romantic affiliation compared to his siblings, and might even play well with Jerome and Esmé's extremely hasty engagement, I'm not sure that there's actually any practical canonical evidence for it. There's not really a hint of this kind of tie between the two characters in their private letters to each other, and do you really invite the person you're suppressing socially inappropriate feelings for to your wedding and then to come and visit you and your new partner? Not all friendship is shipping.
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Post by lorelai on Mar 28, 2016 11:45:42 GMT -5
I agree that in terms of the text itself, we are meant to see them as solely close friends. There seems to be something in or about these letters that makes people consider the idea though, because a fellow writer friend of mine who's never read Snicket asked this question when I was explaining the UA to her. Like I said, I don't always ship them, and even told my friend you could choose to read it that way despite it not being the intent, but Sniketverse can be sad enough without JS/JS (not to maention confusing, since that could also suggest Justice Strauss).
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Post by isadorabaudelaire5 on Mar 28, 2016 11:45:53 GMT -5
He might have been too sad to let him go as a friend and it could stand out more to not invite him.
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Post by lorelai on Mar 28, 2016 21:49:00 GMT -5
You have to admit on some level marrying Esme period, let alone marrying her after one night, shows Jerome doesn't have the best track record when it comes to romance-based decisions.
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Post by A comet crashing into Earth on Mar 30, 2016 13:14:16 GMT -5
I don't believe this is hinted at in the books, so I don't personally intend to adopt the idea. It's not impossible, though, and actually this is the kind of idea I'd like to see hints of in the Netflix show - things which aren't in the books, but don't actually contradict them.
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