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Post by Mr. Dent on Nov 21, 2016 16:41:49 GMT -5
Also, despite his amusing in-character tweeting, NPH seems to understand that he is not actually Count Olaf, as evidenced by the fact that when the filming wrapped, he treated the cast to snow cones and cotton candy rather than bullets and dead rats. And I'll bet his children are VERY thankful for that. |
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Post by bear on Nov 21, 2016 17:03:47 GMT -5
"when i was offered to play count olaf i knew i had received the opportunity of a lifetime," said Harris, stroking the actual forked beard that he had grown for his role. "it was a full-on shakespearean experience. i wasn't just playing olaf, i WAS olaf. he truly filled my soul. so that's why i kidnapped a baby and locked it in a birdcage, your honor."
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Post by mizbizsav on Nov 21, 2016 17:58:32 GMT -5
When I first saw the trailer, it did shock me because it was not what I was expecting. The Internet line threw me off the first time (just the existence of it clashing with the book research), and the bright visuals and whimsical vibe were not what I imagined at all. My knee-jerk reaction was that while I still thought the show was going to be very good, I preferred the Gothic vibe that I had always pictured and associated with this series. It's not that I didn't recognize the humor in the series like some people - heck, the humor was one of my favorite parts! I think the change was just seeing it projected on the world rather than simply coming from the characters. The ridiculousness in the series - I always saw it as "dark whimsical" rather than simply "whimsical whimsical", if that makes sense. But with every rewatch I have warmed up to the idea more and more. I can see it working. I still miss the dark tone I imagined (I think that's mostly because of Helquist's illustrations), but I'm definitely keeping an open-mind.
Also - for me, the funniest thing in the trailer was not any of the witty lines, but the little smile that Mr. Poe does after telling the children that their parents have "perished". It felt exactly in character.
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Post by Invisible on Nov 21, 2016 18:45:42 GMT -5
Wait...The internet exists in this universe? ....Huh....
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Post by Esmé's meme is meh on Nov 21, 2016 18:51:41 GMT -5
...didn't you watch the last trailer?
Anyway, as we said a couple of times before, the mention of the Internet is one of many other elements that make the Snicket universe impossible and indecipherable. Let's not make such a fuss about it.
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Post by Mr. Dent on Nov 21, 2016 20:03:14 GMT -5
When I first saw the trailer, it did shock me because it was not what I was expecting. The Internet line threw me off the first time (just the existence of it clashing with the book research), and the bright visuals and whimsical vibe were not what I imagined at all. My knee-jerk reaction was that while I still thought the show was going to be very good, I preferred the Gothic vibe that I had always pictured and associated with this series. It's not that I didn't recognize the humor in the series like some people - heck, the humor was one of my favorite parts! I think the change was just seeing it projected on the world rather than simply coming from the characters. The ridiculousness in the series - I always saw it as "dark whimsical" rather than simply "whimsical whimsical", if that makes sense. But with every rewatch I have warmed up to the idea more and more. I can see it working. I still miss the dark tone I imagined (I think that's mostly because of Helquist's illustrations), but I'm definitely keeping an open-mind. Also - for me, the funniest thing in the trailer was not any of the witty lines, but the little smile that Mr. Poe does after telling the children that their parents have "perished". It felt exactly in character. I totally get that! Trust me, this isn't what I had imagined either. If I had my vision for the series realized, the color palette would be all blurry and sepia tinted, and the trailer would begin with Walking My Gargoyle blaring as the Baudelaires trekked across the vacant American Midwest. (Thankfully for Netflix' marketing team, I am not in charge.) My initial response to the trailer, though, was to be impressed. Given the early leaks of the cast and set, I knew it wasn't going to look anything like the movie, but I didn't realize just how far they would go with it. And, I personally think that the idea to set the story in a sort of faux 1960s was genius! After all, it's an era in history that's very firmly defined by resistance and distrust towards authority, which I think is absolutely perfect for the series. Also, wholly agreed on Mr. Poe! |
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Post by Mr. Dent on Nov 21, 2016 20:47:50 GMT -5
I agree so much with both of you! Having just reread the series, I see so much that the impression I had in my head as far as visual style was very, very much informed by Helquist's illustrations - and that while they are very good illustrations, there is nothing in the actual text dictating gothic victorian style or preventing other styles. I also agree about the whole 40s to 60s vibe - when I first saw the teaser and saw what they were going for, I immediately though - Espionage! Spies! Codes! Ridiculous levels of suspicion and division! Perfect. I think that this series is definitely informed by ATWQ- If this series had been produced before ATWQ, I think it likely would have taken on a more victorian gothic look. I think there's a concerted effort here to create a unified series lore, which is very exciting. |
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Post by Skelly Craig on Nov 22, 2016 9:52:50 GMT -5
Also, despite his amusing in-character tweeting, NPH seems to understand that he is not actually Count Olaf, as evidenced by the fact that when the filming wrapped, he treated the cast to snow cones and cotton candy rather than bullets and dead rats. Unlike Jim Carrey, who notoriously got so immersed in the role, he started a series of fires during and after the film shoot. |
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Post by zinthaniel on Nov 22, 2016 10:49:58 GMT -5
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Post by zinthaniel on Nov 22, 2016 11:11:53 GMT -5
Also someone on tumblr made a pretty cool, and probably obvious to many of you, observation that the orphans are each assigned a primary color as their color palette.
Violet - Red
Klaus - Blue
Sunny - yellow
From the trailer we know the color scheme is consistent throughout the season. I wonder what the reason behind that is... any ideas?
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Post by Mr. Dent on Nov 22, 2016 11:12:42 GMT -5
Well Harris did send this to Louis Hynes for his birthday... Oh, no, what is this madness? Now, not only do we have a Jim Carrey Olaf roaming the streets and starting fires, but now we've a NPH Olaf, kidnapping babies and burning bookish boys? Is this some kind of "that which holds the image of an Olaf, becomes itself an Olaf" deal? Have we unleashed two terrible villains out into the wild? Also someone on tumblr made a pretty cool, and probably obvious to many of you, observation that the orphans are each assigned a primary color as their color palette. Violet - Red Klaus - Blue Sunny - yellow From the trailer we know the color scheme is consistent throughout the season. I wonder what the reason behind that is... any ideas? Oh, yes, I saw that! The primary colors stay the same, but Violet and Klaus actually swap their assigned colors at some point- In the beginning, Klaus wears a red sweater, and Violet a blue jacket. I think the primary color assignment is mostly a stylistic choice, and a way to keep the kids as the center of attention even when stars like Joan Cusack and Neil Patrick Harris are on screen. (In spite of the trailers all playing up Olaf, I think the only reason they do that so heavily is because Olaf is highly recognizable. |
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Post by Skelly Craig on Nov 22, 2016 11:43:56 GMT -5
Another obvious observation - but I just want to make sure people realize this - the series comes out exactly 13 years after the movie adaptation. How frickin' cool is that.
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Post by Tryina Denouement on Nov 22, 2016 11:53:55 GMT -5
I loved the interpretations about the aesthetic and its symbolism! The thing about the 1960s being an era of distrust and resistance was also good. It only hit me after I read that. I also liked the Count Olaf jokes. It's true that NPH looks pretty immersive!
EDIT: Whoa, I really didn't realize that it was 13 years after the movie!
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Post by bear on Nov 22, 2016 12:02:02 GMT -5
that means I've been a lemony snicket fan for 13 years D: D: D:
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Post by Skelly Craig on Nov 22, 2016 12:05:54 GMT -5
Take it to the next level and burn your house down.
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