larina
Reptile Researcher
Posts: 47 
Likes: 79
|
Post by larina on Nov 29, 2016 14:26:52 GMT -5
I respect your opinion, but I simply don't see any reason to worry. The somber moments in the novel were very sparingly placed and are very plot heavy. I believe, possibly due to nostalgia, fans are overstating it's presence in the series. The books spent a lot of time being absurd only to suddenly get somber and serious during very key moments. I doubt they will ruin those moments by showing them in the trailer. Yeah the thing I remember loving about the books were how hilarious they were. Still do. I don't get the concerns over it being treated as a comedy cuz like oops it is a comedy. Especially as the series progresses and the situations get, honestly, sillier. BLESS. In my opinion, the sillier the overall mood is, the better the serious moments work. |
|
|
|
Post by countadrian on Nov 29, 2016 14:33:05 GMT -5
The pre-show itself consists of a few little "behind the scenes" things, but the ASOUE advertisement is not one of them, it's just an advertisement. If they ever put out a tv ad for this show, I imagine that the teaser I saw will likely be similar to whatever that kind of ad would end up looking like. As for the tone of the ad itself, it was very much in line with the trailer. Wacky, fast paced, and clearly trying to be quite comedic. I know the books really are quite funny and full of absurdist humor, but I have to admit I'm getting just a tad bit worried by the tone Netflix and Paramount seem to be trying to sell us on. I can only speak for myself, but I personally do hope to see something showing off the series' more somber side at some point before January 13th, if only because I'm beginning to feel the need for proof that this show is going to go at least a little somber when it has to. But whatever, Handler was involved this time around and if this is what he wants his books to look and feel like on-screen, I guess I'm not really allowed to complain. I'm just excited to be getting more ASOUE related things. I respect your opinion, but I simply don't see any reason to worry. The somber moments in the novel were very sparingly placed and are very plot heavy. I believe, possibly due to nostalgia, fans are overstating it's presence in the series. The books spent a lot of time being absurd only to suddenly get somber and serious during very key moments. I doubt they will ruin those moments by showing them in the trailer. I would describe A Series of Unfortunate Events as a dark comedy. It's cartoonish from beginning to end. It seems many fans are unwilling to except that part of it. They want a very serious depiction of what ultimately was a dark but light hearted adventure. I dunno... I mean, I agree there is comedy and absurd, and I'm sure it's just marketing strategy, but damn... I'm currently re-reading The Reptile Room, and wow... there is a great deal of suspense and stressful moments. Uncle Monty's death is terribly cruel, and the entire scenario of Stefano threatening the Baudelaires while uncle Monty doesn't have any clue about anything, is horrible. I really hope those comedy moments in the trailers are the only ones we'll be getting, because the books ARE dark. The comedy is present but spread out. I really hope (and believe) the series won't be entirely funny. |
|
|
|
Post by zinthaniel on Nov 29, 2016 14:51:45 GMT -5
I respect your opinion, but I simply don't see any reason to worry. The somber moments in the novel were very sparingly placed and are very plot heavy. I believe, possibly due to nostalgia, fans are overstating it's presence in the series. The books spent a lot of time being absurd only to suddenly get somber and serious during very key moments. I doubt they will ruin those moments by showing them in the trailer. I would describe A Series of Unfortunate Events as a dark comedy. It's cartoonish from beginning to end. It seems many fans are unwilling to except that part of it. They want a very serious depiction of what ultimately was a dark but light hearted adventure. I dunno... I mean, I agree there is comedy and absurd, and I'm sure it's just marketing strategy, but damn... I'm currently re-reading The Reptile Room, and wow... there is a great deal of suspense and stressful moments. Uncle Monty's death is terribly cruel, and the entire scenario of Stefano threatening the Baudelaires while uncle Monty doesn't have any clue about anything, is horrible. I really hope those comedy moments in the trailers are the only ones we'll be getting, because the books ARE dark. The comedy is present but spread out. I really hope (and believe) the series won't be entirely funny. But those were only moments in TRR. Most of the pages are filled with Stephano being silly and strange. Monty's death is a moment, and an effective one there's no denying that, but it certainly isn't what the majority of the atmosphere of the novel is which was comedic. It's why those moments work so well because of the juxtaposition of the comedy and sudden seriousness. It's comedy punctuated by very dark and somber moments. But it's not the other way around. |
|
|
|
Post by Dante on Nov 29, 2016 15:16:38 GMT -5
I don't know if I would quite agree with that. (Especially not with TBB and TRR, which are indeed darker and less funny, but they're exceptions rather than the norm.) I think that ASoUE is more of a tragedy told comically, and occasionally swinging more towards one direction or the other.
|
|
|
|
Post by ironic impostor on Nov 29, 2016 15:24:43 GMT -5
Woah, everybody just jumped on me real fast didn't they. Nowhere did I say I don't believe there's comedy in the books, in fact I said just the opposite. I'm well aware of how funny the books are, most of my favorite moments are the ones that make me laugh. HOWEVER, with that being said, I'm merely saying that I hope the show doesn't lose sight of the fact that, while a majority of the time the books are indeed wacky and silly, there are also somber MOMENTS. Nowhere in my comments do I say I think the show should only be one way or the other, merely that I hope Netflix eventually gives us a taste of its more somber "side". Meaning that it's also got the comedic side and I understand that. I just want a little proof that the show will know how to switch between the two as effectively as the books do, and please don't forget that the books do indeed do so.
One minute we're laughing like hyenas at Mr. Poe's freakout about Sunny and the Incredibly Deadly Viper, the next we're fearing for Violet as she tries to fuss with Olaf's suitcase and are afraid of this very formidable foe coming to foil her attempts to foil his attempts to abduct her and her siblings.
Silliness runs through the veins of ASOUE and I get that, please believe me I do, I'm simply attempting to make clear that I would like to see some proof that the heart that's there in the books will run through the show as well. Somber doesn't necessarily mean just the scenes involving death or loss, but also the quiet moments in which the Baudelaires reflect on the way their lives used to be. There's real heart amongst the irony, and I don't want to see that fade from the Netflix adaptation of the series. I don't think it will, not really, but is it too much to ask for Netflix to provide a smidgeon of proof? I didn't think so when I made my initial comment, but I suppose, based on the reaction from so many, perhaps it is.
|
|
|
|
Post by mortinson51 on Nov 29, 2016 15:32:25 GMT -5
I have to back imposter up. What I was saying is while the series is absurd I feel like the absurdity is played as being serious. It's not like look at me now I'm being funny. We have heard NPH say he will be playing a dark Olaf but we haven't seen any proof obviously that marketing I'm still loving everything from this show but I think we need to see the "scary" moments and not just the popcorn funny ones
|
|
|
|
Post by Mr. Dent on Nov 29, 2016 15:38:30 GMT -5
I have to back imposter up. What I was saying is while the series is absurd I feel like the absurdity is played as being serious. It's not like look at me now I'm being funny. We have heard NPH say he will be playing a dark Olaf but we haven't seen any proof obviously that marketing I'm still loving everything from this show but I think we need to see the "scary" moments and not just the popcorn funny ones I dunno, the Meet Count Olaf teaser had absolutely no jokes in it whatsoever, and that was meant to introduce everyone to NPH's big starring role. I don't think there's anything to fear regarding a lack of suspense. |
|
larina
Reptile Researcher
Posts: 47
Likes: 79
|
Post by larina on Nov 29, 2016 15:58:14 GMT -5
I have to back imposter up. What I was saying is while the series is absurd I feel like the absurdity is played as being serious. It's not like look at me now I'm being funny. We have heard NPH say he will be playing a dark Olaf but we haven't seen any proof obviously that marketing I'm still loving everything from this show but I think we need to see the "scary" moments and not just the popcorn funny ones I think the reason for the lack of dark moments in the trailers is that the trailers are not made by the show's creators, but by a marketing company. The company probably doesn't care about us, book fans, since we'll be there watching the show anyway. (The promos aimed solely at the book audience are the VFD websites) So there's no need to "prove" anything. In my opinion, the main goal of this marketing team is to attract the casual audience. They don't want parents worrying about the show being way too scary or boring for kids, so they don't take much risks with their trailers. |
|
|
|
Post by ironic impostor on Nov 29, 2016 17:08:59 GMT -5
Don't know who's following the official Unfortunate Events twitter feed closely, but they've been tweeting like crazy over the last couple of hours. And they just confirmed we're getting more teasers and/or trailers. Not that that's necessarily unexpected or anything, but still thought it was worth a mention.
|
|
|
|
Post by alvaromolina on Nov 29, 2016 17:21:55 GMT -5
Don't know who's following the official Unfortunate Events twitter feed closely, but they've been tweeting like crazy over the last couple of hours. And they just confirmed we're getting more teasers and/or trailers. Not that that's necessarily unexpected or anything, but still thought it was worth a mention. Yes! I just saw that too. They usually start doing things one day before they post a trailer or something, maybe we'll be getting something either later today or early tomorrow |
|
|
|
Post by ironic impostor on Nov 29, 2016 17:30:12 GMT -5
They usually start doing things one day before they post a trailer or something, maybe we'll be getting something either later today or early tomorrow That's about what I was thinking. I'm guessing if not tomorrow, then probably by the end of the week. Or at least I hope so.[/quote] |
|
|
|
Post by zinthaniel on Nov 29, 2016 17:30:34 GMT -5
I certainly didn't jump on anybody and again I respect everyone's opinion and interpretation of the books. Obviously, whether the books are more funny than dark or more dark than funny is a controversial point, since it really matters on how you interpreted the atmosphere of the books.
Now NPH has time and time again sworn that the show is dark and that he plays his part very darkly, more so than the movie. He has said that it is ore faithful to the books and Daniel Handler himself is not only the executive producer but also head writer.
So fundamentally I don't see anything that is alarming. I do believe because their is an element of subjectivity to all of this some people simply will not be satisfied, and I am not speaking contemptuously of those people.
|
|
|
|
Post by mizbizsav on Nov 29, 2016 21:50:22 GMT -5
Well, at least the humor described in the "new trailer" (crying with their inside voices, the Citizen Kane line) is more in-line with the Snicket humor we all love.
|
|
|
|
Post by ironic impostor on Nov 29, 2016 23:39:44 GMT -5
Well, at least the humor described in the "new trailer" (crying with their inside voices, the Citizen Kane line) is more in-line with the Snicket humor we all love. I agree. |
|
|
|
Post by ryantrimble457 on Nov 30, 2016 9:02:17 GMT -5
Did anyone get a vid of NPH on The View that I can share?
|
|
