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Post by Esmé's meme is meh on Nov 24, 2016 8:29:22 GMT -5
Because of the Baudelaire's wardrobe changes (especially Violet's pink), some people have already floated the idea that the children's clothing will grow closer to their book illustration counterparts over the initial episodes. This is mostly based on the clothing for Violet in The Wide Window, which resembles the illustrations much more closely. Hopping on that train of thought, I'm proposing the same thing might happen to Klaus's glasses. Obviously, in The Bad Beginning, they are not round as in the illustrations. However, I don't think they've shown any Miserable Mill footage from after Klaus's glasses are replaced, and sitting behind him in Dr. Orwell's promotional picture is a pair of round glasses. Maybe Klaus's replacement glasses will be round? It could all be a red herring, and his glasses could just stay the shape they are - but, I'm holding out for round glasses!  There's a lot of different glasses behind him! I like the round ones, but I think they don't fit Louis' face and the series style. I like the ones they chose for him tho. |
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Post by Esmé's meme is meh on Nov 24, 2016 13:06:53 GMT -5
Woah I didn't even think of Sebald Code Quisby, amazing job!
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Post by Skelly Craig on Nov 24, 2016 17:29:04 GMT -5
Thanks for sparing us/someone else the work to find out if there's a Sebald code in there, Quisby!
As for Klaus' glasses, I think they intentionally avoided the round glasses to not make him look like a certain famous wizard from another children's book/movie series. They ones they chose instead are the perfect replacement imo though.
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Post by gliquey on Nov 24, 2016 17:57:28 GMT -5
After someone I showed the latest trailer to said out loud "What's up with the doorbell ring?" (emphasis mine) I realized I had to check the trailer for Sebald code between the trolley ring and the doorbell ring or I would die. Unfortunately, Although I tried it multiple ways, it's all gibberish. [...] So, due to my exhaustive and exhausting analysis, I think it is safe to say that there is no Sebald code contained between the ringing in this trailer. "Safe to say" is a phrase which here means "disappointing, but the truth," and it can be used both when discussing events you believe to be in your future, such as marriage, or when discussing events decidedly not in your future, such as marriage. As such, it is a phrase best used by those who do have a future, such as you, or the man underneath your bed, and not by me, and I apologize for using it. Wow, impressive observation and dedication to trying to find something. It's a shame there wasn't a message in there, but I guess it would have been nearly impossible for the people who made the trailer to arrange the important scenes that the trailer needed to contain in such a way that exactly every eleven words between ringing formed a meaningful message. Still worth a try, though. |
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Post by A comet crashing into Earth on Nov 24, 2016 18:05:12 GMT -5
Thanks for the effort, Quisby! It was a good idea.
Reading that post was like reading a scientific article: Still pretty interesting, even when the conclusion is 'Nope, turns out there wasn't anything to find out in the first place'.
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Post by Dante on Nov 25, 2016 7:19:00 GMT -5
Sebald Code is always difficult; one expects to find it everywhere, and yet never, never does. I think the only example of it in the entire series which isn't explicitly labelled for the reader is in TPP, and even that contains a curious ambiguity which might be a mistake. My suspicion is that the very fact that the code in Zombies in the Snow has been changed to something more visual is a sign that we probably shouldn't worry about Sebald Code; it would be absurdly hard to decode on the fly by ear alone. Regarding the Internet and technology in general in ASoUE, the key line for me has always been way back in TBB Chapter Two, where "They passed horse-drawn carriages and motoryclces along Doldrum Drive." The series is not our world, and it has multiple conflicting levels of technology present simultaneously. It's like all of history collapsed together in a single space. The series is also pretty sparse on description in general; Helquist's illustrations do a lot of the heavy lifting in that regard. And regarding scripts, I would indeed imagine that Series 2 will comprise TAA to TCC, which as we've discussed fits rather nicely. Regarding episode counts, I would say that rather than the later books being longer and thus requiring more episodes, instead the earlier books are getting more padding in order to match the length and complexity of the later books; two hours should be enough for all save perhaps the very longest books in the series. For reference, TPP is the longest and TSS and The End are joint second, with TGG a close third. I think the argument that three hours is a bit much for any one book is a cogent one, though. |
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Post by Hermes on Nov 25, 2016 7:31:56 GMT -5
Agree about Sebald Code. (Of course, in-story that's exactly how it's meant to be used; but this may explain why messages so rarely get through.)
Regarding the internet, I think the issue is not 'the internet shouldn't exist in such a old-fashioned world', but 'if there is an internet the story ought to go differently'. Especially if it's an internet on which things can be bought, which doesn't suggest it's the preserve of the government or of a small community of geeks. (Though this can be exaggerated; I often find people assuming that in a world where there are cellphones, it's impossible that anyone should fail to communicate with anyone, ever; and that just doesn't fit my experience.)
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Post by ryantrimble457 on Nov 25, 2016 9:19:58 GMT -5
Agree about Sebald Code. (Of course, in-story that's exactly how it's meant to be used; but this may explain why messages so rarely get through.) Regarding the internet, I think the issue is not 'the internet shouldn't exist in such a old-fashioned world', but 'if there is an internet the story ought to go differently'. Especially if it's an internet on which things can be bought, which doesn't suggest it's the preserve of the government or of a small community of geeks. (Though this can be exaggerated; I often find people assuming that in a world where there are cellphones, it's impossible that anyone should fail to communicate with anyone, ever; and that just doesn't fit my experience.) While an internet certainly could exist in this world, I imagine the kids would have restricted access to it. The only place they go that they would have easy access to internet is Heimlich and Hotel Denoument, it would seem. Also...it's a lil throwaway joke that probably doesn't mean much.  |
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Post by Agathological on Nov 25, 2016 14:12:30 GMT -5
It's an anachronistic world; something that I really enjoy.
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Post by ryantrimble457 on Nov 28, 2016 13:35:53 GMT -5
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Post by ironic impostor on Nov 28, 2016 23:05:22 GMT -5
Pretty sure you can see the theatrical teaser before any movie as long as you go to a Carmike brand cinema. I'm also assuming this applies to AMC's as well because I know Carmike was bought out by them earlier this year, but I have no evidence other than that to base my assumption on. Just went to see "The Edge of Seventeen" at a Carmike and it was part of the "Front and Center" pre-show before the movie. It was pretty much all new footage, which I found interesting.
It starts with Olaf (as Stephano) entering a theater with popcorn. Then it cuts to the screen and Lemony Snicket is in front of Mr. Poe in his office. Then we get a few assorted shots, one I remember most is a hand taking a cap off a spyglass and giving a bit more of a look at how those will look when opened up. Then there's a bit where Olaf crashes into Monty's hedges. Then there's the "I told them to cry with their inside voices" line between Count Olaf and Justice Strauss. And then we're back in the theater with Stephano saying that it should have ended like Citizen Kane and everyone should have gotten eaten. Not exactly new information, I know, but just thought I'd add whatever I could remember. I'm not entirely in love with the voice NPH is using for Stephano, but I know that Olaf uses a silly voice in the books too, so I'm certainly not goig to fault anyone for merely sticking to details.
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Post by mortinson51 on Nov 29, 2016 0:49:59 GMT -5
Pretty sure you can see the theatrical teaser before any movie as long as you go to a Carmike brand cinema. I'm also assuming this applies to AMC's as well because I know Carmike was bought out by them earlier this year, but I have no evidence other than that to base my assumption on. Just went to see "The Edge of Seventeen" at a Carmike and it was part of the "Front and Center" pre-show before the movie. It was pretty much all new footage, which I found interesting. It starts with Olaf (as Stephano) entering a theater with popcorn. Then it cuts to the screen and Lemony Snicket is in front of Mr. Poe in his office. Then we get a few assorted shots, one I remember most is a hand taking a cap off a spyglass and giving a bit more of a look at how those will look when opened up. Then there's a bit where Olaf crashes into Monty's hedges. Then there's the "I told them to cry with their inside voices" line between Count Olaf and Justice Strauss. And then we're back in the theater with Stephano saying that it should have ended like Citizen Kane and everyone should have gotten eaten. Not exactly new information, I know, but just thought I'd add whatever I could remember. I'm not entirely in love with the voice NPH is using for Stephano, but I know that Olaf uses a silly voice in the books too, so I'm certainly not goig to fault anyone for merely sticking to details. I'm just curious is this pre show like more of behind the scenes look or is it like a trailer? Also are they still advertising it with a comic spin or is a more somber approach? |
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Post by ironic impostor on Nov 29, 2016 8:11:14 GMT -5
The pre-show itself consists of a few little "behind the scenes" things, but the ASOUE advertisement is not one of them, it's just an advertisement. If they ever put out a tv ad for this show, I imagine that the teaser I saw will likely be similar to whatever that kind of ad would end up looking like.
As for the tone of the ad itself, it was very much in line with the trailer. Wacky, fast paced, and clearly trying to be quite comedic. I know the books really are quite funny and full of absurdist humor, but I have to admit I'm getting just a tad bit worried by the tone Netflix and Paramount seem to be trying to sell us on.
I can only speak for myself, but I personally do hope to see something showing off the series' more somber side at some point before January 13th, if only because I'm beginning to feel the need for proof that this show is going to go at least a little somber when it has to. But whatever, Handler was involved this time around and if this is what he wants his books to look and feel like on-screen, I guess I'm not really allowed to complain. I'm just excited to be getting more ASOUE related things.
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Post by zinthaniel on Nov 29, 2016 14:12:41 GMT -5
The pre-show itself consists of a few little "behind the scenes" things, but the ASOUE advertisement is not one of them, it's just an advertisement. If they ever put out a tv ad for this show, I imagine that the teaser I saw will likely be similar to whatever that kind of ad would end up looking like. As for the tone of the ad itself, it was very much in line with the trailer. Wacky, fast paced, and clearly trying to be quite comedic. I know the books really are quite funny and full of absurdist humor, but I have to admit I'm getting just a tad bit worried by the tone Netflix and Paramount seem to be trying to sell us on. I can only speak for myself, but I personally do hope to see something showing off the series' more somber side at some point before January 13th, if only because I'm beginning to feel the need for proof that this show is going to go at least a little somber when it has to. But whatever, Handler was involved this time around and if this is what he wants his books to look and feel like on-screen, I guess I'm not really allowed to complain. I'm just excited to be getting more ASOUE related things. I respect your opinion, but I simply don't see any reason to worry. The somber moments in the novel were very sparingly placed and are very plot heavy. I believe, possibly due to nostalgia, fans are overstating it's presence in the series. The books spent a lot of time being absurd only to suddenly get somber and serious during very key moments. I doubt they will ruin those moments by showing them in the trailer. I would describe A Series of Unfortunate Events as a dark comedy. It's cartoonish from beginning to end. It seems many fans are unwilling to except that part of it. They want a very serious depiction of what ultimately was a dark but light hearted adventure. |
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Post by ryantrimble457 on Nov 29, 2016 14:15:49 GMT -5
The pre-show itself consists of a few little "behind the scenes" things, but the ASOUE advertisement is not one of them, it's just an advertisement. If they ever put out a tv ad for this show, I imagine that the teaser I saw will likely be similar to whatever that kind of ad would end up looking like. As for the tone of the ad itself, it was very much in line with the trailer. Wacky, fast paced, and clearly trying to be quite comedic. I know the books really are quite funny and full of absurdist humor, but I have to admit I'm getting just a tad bit worried by the tone Netflix and Paramount seem to be trying to sell us on. I can only speak for myself, but I personally do hope to see something showing off the series' more somber side at some point before January 13th, if only because I'm beginning to feel the need for proof that this show is going to go at least a little somber when it has to. But whatever, Handler was involved this time around and if this is what he wants his books to look and feel like on-screen, I guess I'm not really allowed to complain. I'm just excited to be getting more ASOUE related things. I respect your opinion, but I simply don't see any reason to worry. The somber moments in the novel were very sparingly placed and are very plot heavy. I believe, possibly due to nostalgia, fans are overstating it's presence in the series. The books spent a lot of time being absurd only to suddenly get somber and serious during very key moments. I doubt they will ruin those moments by showing them in the trailer. Yeah the thing I remember loving about the books were how hilarious they were. Still do. I don't get the concerns over it being treated as a comedy cuz like oops it is a comedy. Especially as the series progresses and the situations get, honestly, sillier. |
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