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Post by Teleram on Dec 23, 2016 0:42:23 GMT -5
gotta say, tho, I'm getting increasingly annoyed by how Violet's been the one holding Sunny in every shot we've seen so far. Does Klaus not have arms?
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Post by mizbizsav on Dec 23, 2016 2:09:55 GMT -5
gotta say, tho, I'm getting increasingly annoyed by how Violet's been the one holding Sunny in every shot we've seen so far. Does Klaus not have arms? Agreed. I've seen just two shots where Klaus was holding Sunny (outside Uncle Monty's house and inside the lumbermill). The rest was Violet. The books never played into gender roles. Why have Violet carrying Sunny all of the time? Hope it feels more even in the show, but... yeah.
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Post by meinhard1 on Dec 23, 2016 2:56:10 GMT -5
Not sure if I have a problem with Violet holding Sunny more. She is the eldest and, per the books, feels a bit of personal responsibility to look after her youngers. Yes, she's kinesthetically inclined, needing her hands for tying knots and such; and I agree the show should avoid gender stereotypes ... but maybe this fits for her. I can see how it would make one worry, but it's not necessarily problematic.
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Post by Liam R. Findlay on Dec 23, 2016 3:16:01 GMT -5
Although I'm not in support of the 'where's Jim Carrey' gang (I'd hazard a guess that they've either never read the books or read a few when they were children but just remember the movie), I do find it mildly amusing to see people supporting the movie for once. I think it's a wonderful movie and I forget that there are those in the world who feel the same
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Post by ryantrimble457 on Dec 23, 2016 8:39:13 GMT -5
Although I'm not in support of the 'where's Jim Carrey' gang (I'd hazard a guess that they've either never read the books or read a few when they were children but just remember the movie), I do find it mildly amusing to see people supporting the movie for once. I think it's a wonderful movie and I forget that there are those in the world who feel the same Right? I love the movie too. It's very amusing to remember that there are people to whom the movie IS "A Series of Unfortunate Events"--not the books, and not this show. Also, as per Violet holding Sunny a lot--(a) stop reaching for things to complain about. (b) It probably falls into her speech about, "Let me keep my promise!" Seriously, you really think Netflix would make her carry the baby "cuz she's the girl"?
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Post by Strangely on Dec 23, 2016 9:48:19 GMT -5
Also, in reply to Strangely's comment above mine, maybe they're saving the house to topple when they're under the door-frame, kinda like in the movie? And, feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't that kinda how it happened in the book too? They got all the way to the door then it fell in? Like I said, feel free to correct me if I'm wrong. That's possible, but in that shot of the house falling you can see them standing on the front porch and the remainder of the house is in no danger of falling. Come to think of it, the concept art did show stilts supporting the rocks too, perhaps the half of the house that fell hits more of those and the entire cliffside breaks apart, leading to the Baudelaire's having to run across the bridge to safety. That would definitely amp up the action for that scene.
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Post by Liam R. Findlay on Dec 23, 2016 10:03:55 GMT -5
I do hope that that happens. The house is too good an invention to just have the back half fall off.
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Post by theplague on Dec 23, 2016 10:04:17 GMT -5
Sorry about this not being on the current topic, but I wasn't able to reply earlier. I'm wondering if the Valorous Dairy Farm depicted in the trailer will appear in the show at all, given that we are clearly seeing scenes on the Prospero. I hope so, I'd really like to see some of the locations only mentioned in the books in the show during scenes not centered on the Baudelaires, like the Vineyard of Fragmented Drapes or Ophelia.
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Post by zinthaniel on Dec 23, 2016 10:10:50 GMT -5
Also, as per Violet holding Sunny a lot--(a) stop reaching for things to complain about. (b) It probably falls into her speech about, "Let me keep my promise!" Seriously, you really think Netflix would make her carry the baby "cuz she's the girl"? I agree. It really seems a bit silly to get so wound up over it. Considering that many of the trailer clips we see her holding Sunny are recycled over and over again. All trailers combined we have scene probably only a minutes worth in material of an 8 hour series. I'm sure there are plenty of scenes with Klaus holding sunny.
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Post by Violent BUN Fortuna on Dec 23, 2016 10:15:24 GMT -5
I would love to see locations that are mentioned but not seen, as it were. The Vineyard of Fragrant Grapes (Drapes) has always been a favourite of mine, and also the Rutabaga River. I'd also love to see the various districts of the city we hear about, and it would be great if we got to see some/all of the places where Snicket leaves his manuscripts for his editor to collect ... if they're acknowledging the existence of the books they could definitely doing it, but if they're only really acknowledging the Netflix series, they could perhaps do something similar with the scripts instead of manuscripts.
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Post by eskaton on Dec 23, 2016 10:15:31 GMT -5
Sorry about this not being on the current topic, but I wasn't able to reply earlier. I'm wondering if the Valorous Dairy Farm depicted in the trailer will appear in the show at all, given that we are clearly seeing scenes on the Prospero. I hope so, I'd really like to see some of the locations only mentioned in the books in the show during scenes not centered on the Baudelaires, like the Vineyard of Fragmented Drapes or Ophelia. That's a great thought, and seems plausible. Maybe we'll get a glimpse of the charred remains of the Royal Gardens as well.
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Post by Agathological on Dec 23, 2016 10:56:59 GMT -5
None of the trailers or stills up until this point have shown any of The Marvellous Marriage subplot; has that been canned?
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Post by mizbizsav on Dec 23, 2016 11:07:56 GMT -5
Although I'm not in support of the 'where's Jim Carrey' gang (I'd hazard a guess that they've either never read the books or read a few when they were children but just remember the movie), I do find it mildly amusing to see people supporting the movie for once. I think it's a wonderful movie and I forget that there are those in the world who feel the same Right? I love the movie too. It's very amusing to remember that there are people to whom the movie IS "A Series of Unfortunate Events"--not the books, and not this show. Also, as per Violet holding Sunny a lot--(a) stop reaching for things to complain about. (b) It probably falls into her speech about, "Let me keep my promise!" Seriously, you really think Netflix would make her carry the baby "cuz she's the girl"? I'm definitely not saying that the show is ruined because Violet is carrying Sunny, but it is a point of discussion. To me, it is glaringly obvious when nearly every shot (and we've seen plenty from a wide variety of scenes) has Violet holding Sunny. If they make it about the promise, then fine. But Klaus feels responsibility, too, and showing him with Sunny is not such a bad thing (again, there's already been two different occasions with that being the case, so maybe so). It's just weird that it's ALWAYS Violet, even in action scenes when they're in a hurry. Was Klaus not closer to Sunny at least one of those times?!
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Post by eskaton on Dec 23, 2016 11:13:43 GMT -5
None of the trailers or stills up until this point have shown any of The Marvellous Marriage subplot; has that been canned? As far as I know, there hasn't been any indication that the marriage subplot won't be present in the series. Some of the script slides from auditions indicate it will be included, though I suppose with script revisions that's not a guarantee. I've seen speculation that the clips with Olaf and the Powder-Faced women in ancient Egyptian garb are part of a play, possibly part of the Marvelous Marriage. I guess it is odd that it hasn't been more noticeably hinted at in any of the trailers. At least one of the film trailers definitely had a shot or two of the Marvelous Marriage sequence.
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Post by gliquey on Dec 23, 2016 11:49:54 GMT -5
Seriously, you really think Netflix would make her carry the baby "cuz she's the girl"? One would hope not, but one would also hope for Violet not to be deprived of her attempts to foil Olaf's plans (grappling hook, signing with her left hand), and yet the movie did it anyway. I think sexism and misogyny, whether intentional or not, is quite abundant in the media and I really hope Netflix doesn't fall into those tiresome cliches - for me, it can make a show quite painful to watch and I would hate it for that to happen with ASOUE. Not sure if I have a problem with Violet holding Sunny more. She is the eldest and, per the books, feels a bit of personal responsibility to look after her youngers. Yes, she's kinesthetically inclined, needing her hands for tying knots and such; and I agree the show should avoid gender stereotypes ... but maybe this fits for her. I can see how it would make one worry, but it's not necessarily problematic. In the books, whilst Violet is the eldest sibling, I think Klaus is just as protective over Sunny, and I recall them taking turns in carrying her up the stairs in TEE - I would expect Sunny to be crawling on her own most of the time, really (or walking after TVV), but if someone has to hold her then I think Violet and Klaus should do it equally. You make a fair point - that's just my opinion. None of the trailers or stills up until this point have shown any of The Marvellous Marriage subplot; has that been canned? I doubt it has: I agree with eskaton that Olaf's Egyptian costume is probably related to this. But tbh, I was a little surprised when the movie used that plot, as TBB was banned in some libraries on the grounds that its storyline is quite incestuous. But if Nickelodeon was fine with it, I'm sure Netflix's potential quite darker version will be.
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