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Post by mizbizsav on Jan 5, 2017 4:18:47 GMT -5
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Post by trip on Jan 5, 2017 5:30:05 GMT -5
Crossed fingers it's "A Bad Beginning" and then "THE Bad Beginning, Never Mind 'A', This Is the Most Bad Beginning Possible, Nothing Can Top This In Regard to How Bad It Is"
On a more serious note, I think I read someone wondering about the Beatrice dedications (or maybe just the introduction of the concept of Beatrice?) a few pages back, and it reminded me of a thought I had a few months ago, that instead of a dedication at the beginning, which is where writers usually give dedication to (optionally dead) loves ones, they might do it the television way-- that is, when a cast or crew member or relative has died and the crew wants to pay tribute, they'll usually tag an In Memory Of to the end of the episode. I usually just see them structured as "In Memory Of X, [birth and death dates]" but I don't see why they couldn't do the old (or create new?) dedications if they wanted.
It would probably trick new people too, which would be a plus imo because I distinctly remember the first time I picked up TBB and saw the dedication, and as I was six and didn't even know that pennames were a thing (and definitely had no idea about the content of the books and the fact that L.S. was a character), I was completely fooled and felt very sad for this Snicket guy, which I think made a few reveals a little more heartbreaking to poor baby me. I would HATE for new fans to miss out on that fun
Anyway they might not even have done dedications but I think if they did do them this would've been a cool way to go about it
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Post by Dante on Jan 5, 2017 5:39:28 GMT -5
That's a good idea for how to handle the dedications; the books handled the dedications as any dedication in a book usually is, so the TV show should also handle them in a manner appropriate to the form.
Regarding episode titles, there's always the potential to bring back the alternative titles that were considered for TBB and TRR pre-publication, "The Miserable Marriage" and "The Good Guardian." So we could have A/The Bad Beginning for Episode 1, followed by Miserable Marrige for Episode 2, Good Guardian for 3, Reptile Room for 4, and then come up with more alternative titles for the books that follow. ...Though, more likely, I suspect they'll just go for Part the First / Part the Second throughout, as that would confuse the relationship between the TV show and the original series for people unfamiliar with the books.
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Post by larina on Jan 5, 2017 7:04:42 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure it's been stated in an interview that the episodes will be titled "The Bad Beginning part one", "The Bad Beginning part two" "The Reptile Room part one", etc. Don't remember the exact source though. I'll personally be totally OK with that kind of naming, given how an adaptation of each book is a two-parter.
What I'm worried about is the reception of the casual audience. There's more cryouts on Facebook about the absence of Jim Carrey. And the reviewers who liked the series are mostly familiar with the books. I'm ecstatic about the possibility of the show being unique and fresh in comparison to everything else on TV. But it's scary to think that the casual audience thst enjoys seeing the same story over and over a hundred times will be put off by the weirdness of the series and erase the possibility of more seasons.
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Post by eskaton on Jan 5, 2017 9:28:05 GMT -5
It's reassuring that the first batch of reviews are all positive. A couple things that stood out:
Via Den of Geek:
This pretty much confirms my suspicions about the marketing being somewhat misleading in terms of the show's tone, and is consistent with what the other reviews are reporting: there is some levity and humor so that the show isn't unrelentingly bleak, but it doesn't shy away from the dark and troubling aspects of the books or trivialize them, either. I was hoping for a balance like this, and it sounds like I won't be disappointed on this front.
Via The Iris:
This is a relief. I was concerned that this particular ambiguity from the books wouldn't be carried over to the Netflix series for whatever reason. Granted, it isn't really a major aspect of the series on the surface, but the surreality of it is a key aspect of Handler's worldbuilding, and subtly contributes to the unique, out-of-time nature of the story.
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Post by zinthaniel on Jan 5, 2017 9:40:59 GMT -5
I'm just super happy that Daniel Handler is one of the few novelist that prove you can transition from novel writing to script writing successfully. I've seen some novelist fail at the attempt.
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Post by Violent BUN Fortuna on Jan 5, 2017 10:23:58 GMT -5
The reviews are so exciting!! I'm so happy that it's being well-received, and I love that the reviewers seem to know what they're talking about. I'm also personally absolutely thrilled that The Grand Budapest Hotel was brought up in connection to the set design, because every time I watch The Grand Budapest Hotel I can't help but feel that it's the most A Series of Unfortunate Events-esque film I've ever seen, in terms not only of its design but also its overall tone and humour. So for any comparisons to be drawn here, well, I'm very happy about that.
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Post by Strangely on Jan 5, 2017 10:35:26 GMT -5
Finally read through all the reviews. I'm happy about the positive reception. The few criticisms in the reviews don't even seem to be unanimous by any stretch. I was initially worried because a couple of the reviewers were unimpressed with the child acting, but then many other reviewers said the complete opposite. So that tends to suggest that the flaws of the show are minimal enough that not everyone will notice.
It was interesting how some reviewers only got four episodes while others got the entire eight. I wonder if in some cases that effected the scoring at all.
Excited for all the unrevealed surprises they've been hinting at. It can't come soon enough.
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Post by mizbizsav on Jan 5, 2017 10:35:36 GMT -5
The Hollywood Reporter review confirms that James Newton Howard is indeed the score composer!
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Post by ironic impostor on Jan 5, 2017 10:59:25 GMT -5
I was very intrigued by this line in the Indiewire review "Even the musical number closing Season 1 circles around the line, 'You might dream that justice and peace win the day, but that’s not how this story goes.'"
Also, in the same review, it says this "The children’s parents die in a fire and, before they can be sent to their proper guardian, the evil Count Olaf (Neil Patrick Harris) takes on the role by tricking a gullible banker (K. Todd Freeman)." ... I think we just got a big hint as to what we saw filming back in April was. Looks like they're going to show how Olaf convinced Poe to put the kids in his care. Love that they're expounding on bits and pieces of the novels that have (more or less rightly) been questioned for years. Cool.
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Post by ryantrimble457 on Jan 5, 2017 11:11:02 GMT -5
Bless you for doing this! Will keep this thread for other previews and stuff if they arrive.
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Post by mizbizsav on Jan 5, 2017 11:17:24 GMT -5
Hopefully I've come to the right place to report this; it's my first post here on the forum. No doubt like most of you, I've been checking the Netflix ASOUE page on IMDb obsessively almost every day, and I have just noticed something rather peculiar there: the show's composer has changed. I believe that this must have been changed very recently, certainly within the last two or three days at most. The series' original composer Nick Urata has seemingly been replaced by highly esteemed, Academy Award-nominated composer James Newton Howard. We all know that IMDb isn't a particularly reputable source of information, but I can't see any reason for this to be fake. Personally, though I loved Urata's scores to films like Ruby Sparks, I'll admit I was a little disappointed when I originally heard, months ago, that he'd be composing for the show. My dream choice had been Danny Elfman at the time, though in light of this revelation I believe James Newton Howard will be just as good as (if not better than) Elfman, and is almost certainly a better choice stylistically than Urata. Furthermore, to add weight to this news: Apparently Howard, known for his particularly fast composing process, has a history of being brought on to projects as a replacement composer at the "last-minute" like this, when the producers and/or studio decide the original composer wasn't living up to expectations. Can it be true then? Has anybody else heard news on this? I've done some light scouring for information and found nothing changed anywhere but on IMDb. Will we get some sort of official confirmation before the show debuts? What are your thoughts? The Hollywood Reporter review has James Newton Howard as the composer!
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Post by zinthaniel on Jan 5, 2017 11:21:53 GMT -5
That Den of Geeks review is like a love letter. It's the only review you need to read if you want to be absolutely hyped for this next coming Friday.
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Post by ryantrimble457 on Jan 5, 2017 11:27:49 GMT -5
I'm not going to read any reviews because I want to experience it all for the first time...but I am thrilled people are loving it so much. I feel so proud, as though they were my own books or something!
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Post by eskaton on Jan 5, 2017 11:28:33 GMT -5
On a more serious note, I think I read someone wondering about the Beatrice dedications (or maybe just the introduction of the concept of Beatrice?) a few pages back, and it reminded me of a thought I had a few months ago, that instead of a dedication at the beginning, which is where writers usually give dedication to (optionally dead) loves ones, they might do it the television way-- that is, when a cast or crew member or relative has died and the crew wants to pay tribute, they'll usually tag an In Memory Of to the end of the episode. I usually just see them structured as "In Memory Of X, [birth and death dates]" but I don't see why they couldn't do the old (or create new?) dedications if they wanted. It would probably trick new people too, which would be a plus imo because I distinctly remember the first time I picked up TBB and saw the dedication, and as I was six and didn't even know that pennames were a thing (and definitely had no idea about the content of the books and the fact that L.S. was a character), I was completely fooled and felt very sad for this Snicket guy, which I think made a few reveals a little more heartbreaking to poor baby me. I would HATE for new fans to miss out on that fun Anyway they might not even have done dedications but I think if they did do them this would've been a cool way to go about it. I really love this idea. According to a new review from Collider, "the scripts leave intact some of the most charming elements of the book’s verbal eccentricities, including Snicket’s macabre letters to his now dead lover Beatrice at the outset of each episode," so it sounds like the actual letters addressed to Beatrice will be incorporated into the opening of each episode in some way, but that could still translate to "in memoriam" dedications. The main series only had dedications after all; we didn't get full letters until later installments.
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