Post by Foxy on Aug 28, 2019 7:03:31 GMT -5
First of all, I just want to say I really appreciate all your recent contributions and threads! You have a lot of original ideas.
I bolded the parts that I'm talking about. Does 'purportedly true', 'anonymous and possibly unreliable sources', and 'due to a typographical error', honestly read like a newspaper that doesn't ever check its facts? [/quote]I think pretty much every article the Baudelaires read during the series was proof of the newspaper not checking its facts. I think in the first bolded point, they are trying to cast doubt over what Snicket is writing about the Baudelaires (the thought just occured to me, Snicket wrote his books to clear the names of the Baudelaire orphans because of the lies TDP was publishing about them... although as the story went on, the more he dug up, the more incriminating evidence he found, and being an honest reporter, he had to report those facts, too.) I think the second bold point shows they are willing to publish anything without making sure it is true first, thus proving your point. And I believe the last bold point is just an honest mistake.
I think there's a possibility GJ may have been writing other articles at this time, and only started her work at the newspaper writing about SOYSKA. She could have been promoted to write other articles after that, but I'm not sure how this lines up with the incredibly ridiculous timeline from TUA.
I can't tell if you're joking here or not... he wasn't actually dead...
I think the reasons she realizes not everything is true are 1) someone probably accused her of printing falsehood, maybe Snicket himself when he got fired and 2) her star reporter locked her in a basement. She puts those two things together, she realizes the truth.
You bring up some really interesting points here. The person writing the articles about the Baudelaires in probably not Eleanora Poe, because when Eleanora Poe writes, she gets her facts right. She actually is an excellent journalist, she just unfortunately trusts people who are not excellent journalists.
Okay, you have my attention now. This is a really interesting theory!
Wait, is that technically true? I feel like whether you get caught or not isn't the deciding factor of whether you committed a crime or not, it's just you don't have to put on a job application that you are a criminal if you've never been caught.
I think as far as the hotel and not showing any remorse, at that point, what do you say? The kids know it was wrong. They are probably so numb at that point, after all the terrible things that have happened both to them and because of them, they have no idea what to feel anymore. This is just my speculation, though.
You could call it rage, but you could also call it Snicket wanting to report the truth, even if it costed him his job. I guess he could have toned the criticism back a bit, but that was his job. Theatrical critic.
I like your different perspective on this!
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Aug 27, 2019 15:33:13 GMT -5 @lsandthebooks said:
Several manhunts--and due to a typographical error, womanhunts,--proved fruitless. For example on page 119, Geraldine writes to Esme that she sometimes makes things up in her articles, to make the story more interesting. But Geraldine only writes 1 column of the paper, not the entire thing. And Geraldine wasn't the one who wrote the slanderous articles about the Baudelaire kids. She only writes articles for her Secret Organizations column, not necessarily for the front page. The Wiki page for Geraldine shows some of the headlines she's written, and not a single one is about the Baudelaire kids being murderers: snicket.fandom.com/wiki/Geraldine_Julienne
And Lemony's obituary was on the front page, so whoever writes the front page articles obviously cares about proving facts.
On page 141, Mr.Poe gets a telegram from Eleanora Poe, and Eleanora says that she thinks some of the stories she's posted in the Daily Punctilio may not be true after all. But, she never directly says that she's talking about the Baudelaire kids. Eleanora is the editor-in-chief, and she oversees the entire paper. The letters in the UA show that the Daily Punctilio has different sections, like the Music section, the Financial Times, and Lemony used to be a Dramatic Critic and wrote the Drama section of the paper.
You could say, that the Daily Punctilio got the Baudelaire kids' names all wrong. But the weird thing is, why would the newspaper get the first names wrong, but get the last name completely right? Also, the newspaper got Al Funcoot's and Esme's names right too. Even after Lemony was fired and Eleanora wrote the article the very next day in apology to Olaf/Al Funcoot, she didn't get a single detail wrong.
My theory is that Lemony Snicket is the one who changed the kids' first names. Their names really are Veronica, Klyde, and Susie Baudelaire. But because he's so incredibly obsessed with their mother Beatrice, Lemony decided that he wanted to clear the kids' names. So, he did everything he could to make it seem like the Daily Punctilio was inaccurate and full of lies. He went so far as to publish an entire book series, just to disprove every Daily Punctilio article about the kids.
Plus, the Daily Punctilio reported that Lemony himself is a criminal. Writing ASOUE also helps him clear his own name, since he references over and over again that he's innocent and that he was framed by Olaf, throughout the series. It is true that in All the Wrong Questions, Lemony does commit murder. But he did it in front of 2 police officers and they decided to not arrest him. So technically, that wouldn't count as a crime.
I think as far as the hotel and not showing any remorse, at that point, what do you say? The kids know it was wrong. They are probably so numb at that point, after all the terrible things that have happened both to them and because of them, they have no idea what to feel anymore. This is just my speculation, though.
Plus, Lemony has a personal grudge against Olaf. He's disliked him since they were kids in school together, like how he tells Beatrice in the Beatrice Letters. He even lost his career at the newspaper all over his rage against Olaf.
I like your different perspective on this!