tonyvfd
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Post by tonyvfd on Sept 17, 2019 11:16:57 GMT -5
Hypoteticaly if the Baudelaires survived the voyage to the mainland, but were arrested and charged despite the incompetence of the authorities,and you were part of the jury(if your country does not have a jury system imagine you are the judge) .
You are presented with the facts of the case what would be your verdict, resolution,?
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Post by Optimism is my Phil-osophy on Sept 17, 2019 11:44:09 GMT -5
They would be guilty of arson at Hotel D. They would be guilty of willful murder, reducing the severity of the crime by giving victims the opportunity to flee. They would be guilty of the accomplice of murder for not warning the islanders of the presence of a deadly fungus at the hands of a well-known killer. Klaus would be guilty of illegal medical practice for the events in THH. Klaus and Violet would be guilty of exposing a defenseless child to danger by letting Sunny work undercover at Hotel D, where they knew dangerous killers could kill her.
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Post by Foxy on Sept 17, 2019 13:24:36 GMT -5
They would be guilty of arson at Hotel D. Agreed. And then probably third degree manslaughter? Is that the one where you weren't planning to kill someone? Legally, would that stick? I definitely hadn't thought of that. Sunny, too? And then there's the question of how much do they actually get charged with since they are all minors. Probably Klaus and Violet would be in more trouble than Sunny. |
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Post by Foxy on Sept 25, 2019 11:46:42 GMT -5
I don't think they would use their fortune for more crimes.
Also, Sunny is a baby. She has no idea what she's actually doing. I mean, maybe in Snicketland she does, but in real life, a baby probably does not get blamed for a crime.
Also also, a 360 means you have turned completely around and are now going to exact same direction you started in. I think you mean 180? But I disagree. I don't think they want to commit crimes. Maybe it's more of a 90 degree turn, or even 45. I think they do it to stay alive. Unfortunately, that means they are guilty, because they are committing crimes.
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tonyvfd
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Post by tonyvfd on Sept 25, 2019 17:23:11 GMT -5
To be honest, I would have found them guilty too (I'm actually surprised all agree with me being the Baudelaire the protagonists of the series) at the hotel denouement, I'd say at least a dozen of people die, and others were hospitalized with sever wounds. People probably die in the hinterlands too.
I agree that Violet and Klauss would bear the brunt of the punishment, perhaps Violet would take the full blame to save her siblings.
Well, if they were to join VFD, or what's left of it you could make the case that they are using their fortune for crime. as VFD cannot be a legal organization.
Also agree that for better or worse they are not the same kids from book 1.
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Post by R. on Jan 17, 2021 4:04:47 GMT -5
Definitely guilty. The Baudelaires have committed so many crimes that it would be impossible to say at this point that they were innocent, regardless of their motivations. What’s more, the Hotel Denouement fire, that Sunny started, could have killed Carmelita. It didn’t, but it could have done.
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Post by Optimism is my Phil-osophy on Jan 17, 2021 5:33:54 GMT -5
Although legally speaking it may be true, Olaf could spread the deadly fungus MM and her death would be not only a possibility, but a certainty.
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Post by Dante on Jan 17, 2021 5:34:57 GMT -5
I think that insufficient emphasis has been placed on the Baudelaires having been minors at the time of the crimes they committed. It's unlikely that they would be tried as adults, and along with the significant element of psychological strain they were under, a competent defence attorney could argue that they were not fully responsible for their actions. Probably Violet and Klaus would get a few years in juvenile detention or some other close supervision and then be released with new identities to start again. Sunny wouldn't even go to trial; given her age, in a few years she wouldn't even remember what had happened.
Further points on some of the specific crimes mentioned in this thread: Strictly speaking they only assisted in the arsons at Caligari Carnival and the Hotel Denouement, rather than having sole responsibility; Klaus and Sunny wouldn't be charged with illegally practicing medicine for their actions in THH as they didn't actually practice any medicine; snd we don't know that Carmelita (or anyone) didn't die in the Hotel Denouement fire.
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Post by Optimism is my Phil-osophy on Jan 17, 2021 7:50:49 GMT -5
It was a joke the stretch of illegal medicine.
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Post by counto on Jan 19, 2021 2:01:45 GMT -5
I think the Baudelaires managed to avoid the authorities (most believing them to be either dead or hiding somewhere). Probably had to use fake identities and live on the lamb for a long while. At least until they would come out of hiding.
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