TheAsh
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Post by TheAsh on Jan 31, 2020 7:10:33 GMT -5
Hi, my name is TheAsh (my internet pseudonym at least) and I have been active on Scifi.Stackexchange for a while (mainly Harry Potter.) I have always loved HP, and have always thought ASOUE is way superior in many many ways. Anyone can write a book where the readers know what happens at the end, but only a true expert can write a book where you don't! (but if you reread the books, you'll find he did answer many questions in a roundabout way.)
I'm an Orthodox Jew and long-time Talmud student. I use Talmudic methodology to interpret ASOUE and ATWQ, as the books are quite similar to the Talmud in many ways. Daniel Handler has stated multiple times that he prefers the Talmudic method of learning. My theories generally make a few assumptions: 1) If the same uncommon phrase is used in only a few places, but not everywhere, I assume the events are the same or related. 2)The survivor of the fire was Beatrice. In fact, she is the intended reader of the books - that's why every book starts off "for Beatrice" and that "everyone else should put them down" 3) Daniel Handler is a genius, and actually has a solution to most of his difficulties, and is not making us run in circles 4) I'm not too concerned with chronology, due to the passages in "The End" which state that events that are similar to each other keep happening again and again. Thus, one can assume and make correlations off similar events that what happened here happened there even if not explicitly stated.
Thus, I like to correlate statements and stories that are not expressly correlated to each other, for I assume that if DH used the same phrasing in both places they refer to similar or same events, even if not explicitly correlated.
I like Snicket Sleuth, and think he's correct on many things, and I especially like Lucio's theories regarding certain things. Lucio in particular is very good at correlating phrases and making unexplicit deductions. I'm not sure if I agree with his "Beatrice is a murderer" viewpoint, but I do think he's correct that Beatrice survived the fire.
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Post by Optimism is my Phil-osophy on Jan 31, 2020 9:57:16 GMT -5
Hi, my name is TheAsh (my internet pseudonym at least) and I have been active on Scifi.Stackexchange for a while (mainly Harry Potter.) I have always loved HP, and have always thought ASOUE is way superior in many many ways. Anyone can write a book where the readers know what happens at the end, but only a true expert can write a book where you don't! (but if you reread the books, you'll find he did answer many questions in a roundabout way.) I'm an Orthodox Jew and long-time Talmud student. I use Talmudic methodology to interpret ASOUE and ATWQ, as the books are quite similar to the Talmud in many ways. Daniel Handler has stated multiple times that he prefers the Talmudic method of learning. My theories generally make a few assumptions: 1) If the same uncommon phrase is used in only a few places, but not everywhere, I assume the events are the same or related. 2)The survivor of the fire was Beatrice. In fact, she is the intended reader of the books - that's why every book starts off "for Beatrice" and that "everyone else should put them down" 3) Daniel Handler is a genius, and actually has a solution to most of his difficulties, and is not making us run in circles 4) I'm not too concerned with chronology, due to the passages in "The End" which state that events that are similar to each other keep happening again and again. Thus, one can assume and make correlations off similar events that what happened here happened there even if not explicitly stated. Thus, I like to correlate statements and stories that are not expressly correlated to each other, for I assume that if DH used the same phrasing in both places they refer to similar or same events, even if not explicitly correlated. I like Snicket Sleuth, and think he's correct on many things, and I especially like Lucio's theories regarding certain things. Lucio in particular is very good at correlating phrases and making unexplicit deductions. I'm not sure if I agree with his "Beatrice is a murderer" viewpoint, but I do think he's correct that Beatrice survived the fire. Hi! Thank you for joining us! Now it all makes more sense, when we know you better. It is great to see that my writings have positively affected someone, instead of only leading to violent rejections. (Note: for me it is very strange to see someone just calling me "Lúcio", because "Lúcio" is my father's name, and I respect and love him so much that I am ashamed when someone calls me just "Lúcio". It is a strange feeling, but I am a strange person.) I believe that your method will contribute a lot to the content produced regarding ASOUE, especially with regard to making ASOUE theories more professional, so to speak. Regarding my text on Beatrice being a murderer, I am not dogmatic in this respect. I call this way of thinking "my most bitter hypothesis", showing that I have my serious doubts about it myself. The hypothesis arose more from the need to fill a gap in the identity of the murderer than from textual evidence. However, despite this, I seriously believe that Beatrice always planned to escape her marriage, as indicated in the poem My Silence Knot and the emphasis she gave to the poem in the letter in which she explained to Lemony the reasons for her canceling the wedding. (I think it is best to talk about it in Sardonic Series, before some administrator complains to me). But tell us more about yourself ... What is your mother tongue? English or Hebrew (or some other)? Can you give more examples of the principles of the Talmud interpretation? Have you read TBL and LSTUA? (I didn't see you making references to them). Note: Here you need to be prepared to deal with some people with notable personalities. Dante is a walking ASOUE library. But he writes in strong words. So try not to cry too loudly with his reviews of your theories. We can all learn a lot from him.
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TheAsh
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Post by TheAsh on Feb 2, 2020 4:15:17 GMT -5
Thanks for your kind words! My mother tongue is English. I speak a fluent Hebrew though. (And I can read Talmudic Aramaic). I have read all ASOUE related books including TBL, TUA, TPP, and TDD. I love ATWQ, but I won't use it unless I absolutely have to - I think most solutions are solvable without it, as ASOUE wasn't intended to be solved with it originally. I haven't quoted from those books yet (though I did reference the cow disguise) because I do not have an ebook of them, making it difficult to copy-paste. I personally think TBL is the most important book in the canon to solve the mysteries. Don't worry about Dante - I LOVE strong disagreement! I have to think about his words and refine my theories accordingly. I agree with your interpretation of the poem My Silence Knot. I am busy, and in the midst of rereading the series, so give me time and I hopefully will expand/clarify them. I do not think you're correct re the sugar bowl, but I need to organize my own theory first.
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Post by Optimism is my Phil-osophy on Feb 2, 2020 7:47:49 GMT -5
Great! I have been waiting a long time to be able to talk to someone who understands the nature of my theories and who agrees with the principles behind them, but who is able to disagree with some of my conclusions using a different method than conventional but still respecting the principles basics of my theory. That sentence was too big ... But for simplicity, I wanted to find someone as eccentric as me, but I didn't think it would be possible.
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