Post by Optimism is my Phil-osophy on Feb 18, 2020 15:13:18 GMT -5
Well, after more than a year of talking to you about my theories, I evidently achieved my goal, which was to improve them. I found weaknesses and strengths and I would like to talk about them.
Weak point: Since my first text, I have defended the idea that Lemony Snicket lies purposefully at times in the ASOUE narrative. I want to officially inform you that I no longer believe this. I still believe that Lemony is an unreliable narrator, but Lemony's only problem is that he is sometimes wrong during ASOUE's narrative. The fact that Lemony can be mistaken is seen in LSTUA in chapter 1, where we find a letter from Lemony talking about how and when he was captured by VFD, while it is implicitly evident that the song The Little Snicket Lad is an account of a Lemony's kidnapping was a victim, but he was too small to remember. I have also presented evidence that indicates that the film Zombies in the Snow has nothing to do with the Baudelaires or Quigley. We have evidence that the secret message contained in it depicts events from a long time before the main events narrated in ASOUE. Lemony was wrong when he believed that the code inserted in Zombies in the Snow had some relevance at the time of the main events of ASOUE recorded by him.
Similarly, after careful investigation, I still believe that Beatrice survived for many years after the destruction of her home, but I also believe that Lemony did not know that she was alive when he published TBB, TRR and TWW. Lemony actually published these books after a few years of the events narrated, as indicated in TRR. (Let's be canonical). Even when Daniel Handler published LSTUA, Daniel Handler indicated that Lemony started writing the first TBB sketches at the time of the main events narrated in ASOUE, but was unable to publish any of the books immediately. Cheesemakers were his penultimate attempt. The TSS card is a Great Red Herring that aims to trick us in multiple ways, and I was tricked by one of those ways. One of the goals is to try to make it clear that Lemony's sister was Beatrice giving the hint of the salad. But it was a false clue, since Kit could have taught Lemony and Beatrice the same salad, no problem. As I explained, the letter must have been sent to Kit, because Lemony did not know that Kit was dead. In LSTUA, Lemony responds to a "sister" who asked her about how she could help the Baudelaires. Lemony answered something like "I very much doubt anyone wanted to help, since reading about them is scary", or something. (chapter 12). This reinforces that someone wrote to Lemony pretending to be his sister. (I know there will be people who will say that this actually reinforces the idea that Lemony was publishing the books during the main events narrated, but remember that in TE Kit she believed that Lemony was dead. It is unlikely that she would continue to believe on it if she had access to a book after his book was released to the general public and still wrote to him asking how she could help the Baudelaires.)
Then the Masked Ball took place. Lemony found out she was alive, and went there, even though it was dangerous. But then he was captured, fled, and spent several years abroad. Lemony came to believe that Beatrice died in the ensuing fire at R.'s mansion. When he returned, he went to investigate the events involving the Baudelaires that would be narrated in TMM. He completed the book and sent the original and a letter to R. In TMM, Lemony could say that before Beatrice's death, she asked herself "where is Count Olaf?" That's exactly what Lemony went to inform Beatrice at the Ball. He went to say to her, "Count Olaf is dead." But Lemony came to believe that she died. Lemony continued to believe this for many, many years, at least until The Carnivorous Carnival was published. I still believe in my interpretation of TBL, that Beatrice planned to fake her own death in order to be able to stay with Lemony. I also believe that one of the Beatrices who was writing letters to Lemony was the mother of the Baudelaires. But now I believe that Lemony's reason for escaping this meeting was that he believed that she was an impostor. For me, the verb "meet" in TBL is used in its different meanings to indicate different interpretations. Beatrice Jr wanted to meet her uncle for the first time. But Beatrice, the mother of the Baudelaires, wanted to meet Lemony again after many years.
The interest of one of them was to know information about her adoptive parents, while the other's interest was in Lemony Snicket himself. One of them wanted to be able to be with Sunny, Violet and Klaus again, while the other knew that the three Baudelaires were long gone (sad), but that Lemony should pay attention to a fourth Baudelaire who was there. Of course, in addition to other evidence I have already listed, and I may list again with minor adjustments in the future.
I realized that the basis of my whole theory is not exactly whether Beatrice survived or not. The basis of my whole theory is the answer to the question "When did Lemony write ASOUE's books?" So the main antagonists of my theory are not those claims that Beatrice died in the fire at her house. The main antagonists of my theory are the theories that Lemony wrote his books, published them on Averse, and then revised them and what parts of the old books ended up in the current books. The other theory that is antagonistic to mine is that the fact that all apparent chronological contradictions are derived from Daniel Handler's errors. This latter theory in particular is difficult to contradict, but in return, it is impossible to prove. It is possible to list a list of errors, but one error does not prove another error. This theory takes simply states "I disagree with the canon, as it is not consistent". This is like cutting the Gordian knot with a sword. You will be efficient, but I am sure it was not what Gordius expected. I believe there is enough evidence to prove that Daniel Handler always had the idea in mind that Lemony Snicket was writing about the past for some (and then many) years. Whether he made a few minor chronological errors doesn't matter. And I can't see any positive evidence that ASOUE was written and revised, or that Daniel Handler planned it to be his interpretation of ASOUE. I know that many will quote The Basic 8, but again I have to say that the narrative method of an author's work does not prove that he used the same method of writing in another book. But Daniel Handler was fully aware that he could be interpreted that way in ASOUE and played with that in TSS and LSTUA. Again the letter in TSS serves as red herring to confuse us about the ASOUE chronology. But these Red Herring is what made ASOUE so interesting, and running away from them is our job.
Strong point: There are two entities in question mark forms in the oceans of ASOUE, one is a submarine and the other is a giant ferocious animal.
Weak point: Since my first text, I have defended the idea that Lemony Snicket lies purposefully at times in the ASOUE narrative. I want to officially inform you that I no longer believe this. I still believe that Lemony is an unreliable narrator, but Lemony's only problem is that he is sometimes wrong during ASOUE's narrative. The fact that Lemony can be mistaken is seen in LSTUA in chapter 1, where we find a letter from Lemony talking about how and when he was captured by VFD, while it is implicitly evident that the song The Little Snicket Lad is an account of a Lemony's kidnapping was a victim, but he was too small to remember. I have also presented evidence that indicates that the film Zombies in the Snow has nothing to do with the Baudelaires or Quigley. We have evidence that the secret message contained in it depicts events from a long time before the main events narrated in ASOUE. Lemony was wrong when he believed that the code inserted in Zombies in the Snow had some relevance at the time of the main events of ASOUE recorded by him.
Similarly, after careful investigation, I still believe that Beatrice survived for many years after the destruction of her home, but I also believe that Lemony did not know that she was alive when he published TBB, TRR and TWW. Lemony actually published these books after a few years of the events narrated, as indicated in TRR. (Let's be canonical). Even when Daniel Handler published LSTUA, Daniel Handler indicated that Lemony started writing the first TBB sketches at the time of the main events narrated in ASOUE, but was unable to publish any of the books immediately. Cheesemakers were his penultimate attempt. The TSS card is a Great Red Herring that aims to trick us in multiple ways, and I was tricked by one of those ways. One of the goals is to try to make it clear that Lemony's sister was Beatrice giving the hint of the salad. But it was a false clue, since Kit could have taught Lemony and Beatrice the same salad, no problem. As I explained, the letter must have been sent to Kit, because Lemony did not know that Kit was dead. In LSTUA, Lemony responds to a "sister" who asked her about how she could help the Baudelaires. Lemony answered something like "I very much doubt anyone wanted to help, since reading about them is scary", or something. (chapter 12). This reinforces that someone wrote to Lemony pretending to be his sister. (I know there will be people who will say that this actually reinforces the idea that Lemony was publishing the books during the main events narrated, but remember that in TE Kit she believed that Lemony was dead. It is unlikely that she would continue to believe on it if she had access to a book after his book was released to the general public and still wrote to him asking how she could help the Baudelaires.)
Then the Masked Ball took place. Lemony found out she was alive, and went there, even though it was dangerous. But then he was captured, fled, and spent several years abroad. Lemony came to believe that Beatrice died in the ensuing fire at R.'s mansion. When he returned, he went to investigate the events involving the Baudelaires that would be narrated in TMM. He completed the book and sent the original and a letter to R. In TMM, Lemony could say that before Beatrice's death, she asked herself "where is Count Olaf?" That's exactly what Lemony went to inform Beatrice at the Ball. He went to say to her, "Count Olaf is dead." But Lemony came to believe that she died. Lemony continued to believe this for many, many years, at least until The Carnivorous Carnival was published. I still believe in my interpretation of TBL, that Beatrice planned to fake her own death in order to be able to stay with Lemony. I also believe that one of the Beatrices who was writing letters to Lemony was the mother of the Baudelaires. But now I believe that Lemony's reason for escaping this meeting was that he believed that she was an impostor. For me, the verb "meet" in TBL is used in its different meanings to indicate different interpretations. Beatrice Jr wanted to meet her uncle for the first time. But Beatrice, the mother of the Baudelaires, wanted to meet Lemony again after many years.
The interest of one of them was to know information about her adoptive parents, while the other's interest was in Lemony Snicket himself. One of them wanted to be able to be with Sunny, Violet and Klaus again, while the other knew that the three Baudelaires were long gone (sad), but that Lemony should pay attention to a fourth Baudelaire who was there. Of course, in addition to other evidence I have already listed, and I may list again with minor adjustments in the future.
I realized that the basis of my whole theory is not exactly whether Beatrice survived or not. The basis of my whole theory is the answer to the question "When did Lemony write ASOUE's books?" So the main antagonists of my theory are not those claims that Beatrice died in the fire at her house. The main antagonists of my theory are the theories that Lemony wrote his books, published them on Averse, and then revised them and what parts of the old books ended up in the current books. The other theory that is antagonistic to mine is that the fact that all apparent chronological contradictions are derived from Daniel Handler's errors. This latter theory in particular is difficult to contradict, but in return, it is impossible to prove. It is possible to list a list of errors, but one error does not prove another error. This theory takes simply states "I disagree with the canon, as it is not consistent". This is like cutting the Gordian knot with a sword. You will be efficient, but I am sure it was not what Gordius expected. I believe there is enough evidence to prove that Daniel Handler always had the idea in mind that Lemony Snicket was writing about the past for some (and then many) years. Whether he made a few minor chronological errors doesn't matter. And I can't see any positive evidence that ASOUE was written and revised, or that Daniel Handler planned it to be his interpretation of ASOUE. I know that many will quote The Basic 8, but again I have to say that the narrative method of an author's work does not prove that he used the same method of writing in another book. But Daniel Handler was fully aware that he could be interpreted that way in ASOUE and played with that in TSS and LSTUA. Again the letter in TSS serves as red herring to confuse us about the ASOUE chronology. But these Red Herring is what made ASOUE so interesting, and running away from them is our job.
Strong point: There are two entities in question mark forms in the oceans of ASOUE, one is a submarine and the other is a giant ferocious animal.
