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Post by Christmas Chief on Sept 15, 2020 21:52:08 GMT -5
I’ll post my full analysis tomorrow, but right now my reaction is just ... wow. I’m truly shocked. I’m flabbergasted. No Trust indeed. Well played, Dante! This was an exciting round! (Also, tricky, Jean Lucio was accused, not me.) |
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Post by tricky on Sept 15, 2020 22:52:13 GMT -5
Goodness gracious sorry, I copied and pasted from a prior round. (Also, tricky , Jean Lucio was accused, not me.) |
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Post by Dante on Sept 16, 2020 2:12:53 GMT -5
Indeed, ladies and gentlemen, perhaps the spy did already know where we were and was waiting for you all to destroy each other! What a dark day for the friends of Mulctuary Money Management!
Let me tell the story from my perspective, then. When I was informed that I would be playing the spy this round, I was anxiously excited; excited to see how well I could keep up the pretence, but anxious because I suspected that quite a few people would be more than happy to see me as the spy. In this light, I was dealt what I regarded as the worst starting hand possible when Sherry Ann, just as I expected, fielded me the very first question in the game. I thought long and hard about how to answer her question, and in the end decided that it was either an entirely random one, or a hint that some form of employment was involved in this particular location; as it happens, my initial theory was Heimlich Hospital, with Sherry Ann perhaps as a patient. And so I worded an answer which strongly implied that I had a job and that multiple different responsibilities were at play in this workplace; but which could be shrugged off if necessary.
This turned out to be an extremely good call, and within a few posts I revised my location theory to what ultimately proved to be the correct answer, Mulctuary Money Management. It would have been beyond reckless to simply call it out, though; right to the end, even at 99% certainty, I never quite gave up that 1% of suspicion that the friends were simply answering with extraordinary cleverness. I resolved to carefully wait and gather information, whilst adopting a role which could be interpreted ambiguously as security guard or Mrs. Bass, in case either was already on the board (as proved to be the case). In this role, I tested the waters by answering roxy222's question with what I felt was a clear indication that we were indeed at a bank, but whilst still leaving open the possibility that we were somewhere else stuffed full of obviously desirable material, such as a library or Lucky Smells Lumbermill - which I believe a few people were trying to misdirect me towards this whole time. Incidentally, when obliged to ask a question, I always directed it at the first person alphabetically who had yet to answer.
Then came my lucky break when Jean Lucio accused Sherry Ann, a turn of events I found positively hilarious. Sherry Ann's defence was a subtle one, but I was qualified to understand her hint about the cellulose fibres; and that placed me in a difficult position. I left her defence overnight, hoping that the remaining friends would support the charge so that I would seem less suspicious in following suit and could thus nip the game in the bud; but when supporters failed to appear, I felt that it would be suspicious of me either to refuse to answer or to support the charge at all. Thus I disagreed with it. Although I felt obliged to do so, however, this action had the paradoxical effect of also being a completely irrational play for a spy and thus in my opinion did a great deal to clinch my innocence.
At that point, in need of a new exit strategy - because I was still too cautious about risking a mistaken location theory - I set my eyes on Jean Lucio. Jean Lucio had given entirely generic answers thus far, and had accused Sherry Ann on extremely slender grounds, a fact which in and of itself appeared suspicious. Furthermore, I felt that everyone else except gothicarchiesfan had more or less absolved themselves; but, above all other considerations... I thought it would be supremely amusing to literally beat him at his own game. As such, I resolved to wait for gothicarchiesfan's answer, and if it was one which indicated his innocence, to accuse Jean Lucio. This consequently played out as I anticipated, and I broke in instantly with my accusation in order to give the impression that I was trying to anticipate a possible location statement from Jean Lucio in the role of spy. To my great pleasure, Jean Lucio then gave a technically terrible if morally correct defence in which he still didn't seem to suspect me at all, and was voted down in consequence.
I take my bow. I have done everything I wanted to in this game. Friends, you played well, but you too were played in turn.
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Post by tricky on Sept 16, 2020 4:09:08 GMT -5
Which side of the schism are you on!? That's some villainous monologuing right there. It was interesting in seeing your deductions, I will have to think for an extra hard location for the next round. Waiting for you all to destroy each other! Friends, you played well, but you too were played in turn. |
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Post by Christmas Chief on Sept 16, 2020 9:36:35 GMT -5
Just how long is your mustache, Dante ? when Sherry Ann, just as I expected, fielded me the very first question in the game. Why did you expect that I would ask you the first question? Edit: And a second question - in your estimation, who was or what answers were trying to misdirect you to Lucky Smells or a library? Okay, here's my play by play: I had the first question. I chose to address it to Dante, who tends to answer fairly quickly, which moves the game along, and also because like Optimism is my Phil-osophy his answers tend to be cautious, so it would be better to clear him early if he wasn't the spy. Indeed, he answered appropriately. In reading his thought process, I do think he was lucky in guessing that "can you help me?" signaled that some form of employment was involved. It could have also referred to a more urgent situation (e.g., a pit of lions, impending doom, etc.). But that's not to undermine your overall strategy, Dante , which was very clever. I more or less cleared him after that answer; I would have been suspicious if he had agreed with Optimism is my Phil-osophy 's accusation, though at that point I wouldn't have been able to do anything about it. FileneNGottlin confirmed the workplace environment without its having been stated thus far, so s/he was cleared. R. 's "robbery" answer was a dead giveaway, I thought, so while it cleared her, it also made the spy much harder to identify from that point forward. gothicarchiesfan 's first answer was too vague to clear him, but his second answer definitely did. Optimism is my Phil-osophy had three strikes against him in my book: 1) vague answers (to what workplace in ASOUE can't you drive? Why wouldn't you be working in a workplace?) 2) accusing me relatively early (and eagerly, I thought) in the game, when I thought it was clear that my question and answer cleared me, 3) a weak defense that did not add any new information about our location. Edit2: I did feel it was a little too soon to accuse JL - I had hoped that gothicarchiesfan would ask him one more question - but I knew that if I didn't agree with the charge there wouldn't be another chance to accuse him in the game. Edit3: Also, it was getting increasingly obvious where we were, so that was another factor in my decision to agree. And so, we fell. But I'm excited for the next round! |
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Post by Optimism is my Phil-osophy on Sept 16, 2020 12:37:31 GMT -5
I have to admit that even though I was cheated, it was an exciting game! I am still amazed at the game and Dante's monologue, really looking like a supervillain, like at the end of Watchman or something. just widespread death in without the consequent world peace. It’s amazing how he manipulated us with just a few questions and words. I mean, he just fostered intrigue and suspicion and looked completely innocent. That’s the perfect criminal. I was sure the spy was gothicarchiesfan. I thought he realized where we were and he was playing with us. I thought he was emulating my character because his answers were the ones I would have given. I think he must have been thinking the same thing about me. But still, my argument should have been convincing. If I were the spy and I was cornered, the smartest thing on my part would be to try to guess the place before finishing the round of voting instead of defending myself. Edit1: And about vague questions, the answers tend to be vague ... I mean, next time, before you accuse me, check if I'm evading the question or if I'm responding in a natural way. I mean, look at the difference between my answers and the "clothes" answer given by my main suspect. |
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Post by Christmas Chief on Sept 16, 2020 13:19:31 GMT -5
But still, my argument should have been convincing. If I were the spy and I was cornered, the smartest thing on my part would be to try to guess the place before finishing the round of voting instead of defending myself. To me, the line "I understood so much that if I were the spy, I would have revealed myself and [stated] where we were" sounded exactly like you were the spy and had no idea where we were. Fair enough, though, that the best strategy in your position if you were the spy would have been to guess. Hahaha I'm sorry we killed you Jean Lucio. But in our defense, both of your answers were as vague or vaguer than gothicarchiesfan's first answer! At least gothicarchiesfan's second answer was definitely specific enough to let us know he wasn't the spy. Edit: I will take the blame for inadvertently tipping Dante off with my first question, though. Now I know better. |
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Post by Dante on Sept 16, 2020 14:50:51 GMT -5
when Sherry Ann, just as I expected, fielded me the very first question in the game. Why did you expect that I would ask you the first question? A paranoid hunch; you've accused me of being the spy in the past, after all. Filene's "inordinate workload", and your own cellulose fibers - derived ultimately, I gather from my extensive research, from plants and bark, however they may then be processed into textiles which are processed into cash notes. I think this isn't strictly speaking true; as I understand the rules, each player only gets one opportunity to accuse, but there's no limit on who gets accused; so everyone could just accuse exactly the same person in turn. The fact that that wouldn't happen also reflects the reason why there wouldn't need to be a rule limiting accusations against specific individuals; if they get cleared once, probably they aren't likely to come under early suspicion again. |
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Post by Optimism is my Phil-osophy on Sept 16, 2020 17:18:52 GMT -5
It's correct
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Post by Christmas Chief on Sept 16, 2020 17:28:06 GMT -5
A paranoid hunch; you've accused me of being the spy in the past, after all. Ironically, I still think your answers in that round were more spy-like than your answers in this one. |
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Post by tricky on Sept 16, 2020 21:23:18 GMT -5
Registration for the next round of Spyfall with ASOUE theme is open again!
You will have 72 hours to sign up!
If you wish to participate, just write in a post below: "I'm in!"
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Post by gothicarchiesfan on Sept 16, 2020 21:31:00 GMT -5
I'm in.
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Post by Christmas Chief on Sept 16, 2020 22:06:04 GMT -5
In!
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Post by R. on Sept 17, 2020 1:21:32 GMT -5
I’m in!
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Post by Optimism is my Phil-osophy on Sept 17, 2020 9:00:34 GMT -5
I'm in
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