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Post by Esmé's meme is meh on Apr 13, 2022 20:12:49 GMT -5
To start this, I have to say I hate how they call themselves americans ignoring there are two continents full of countries that also fit that category.
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Post by allegedly bryan on Apr 13, 2022 21:12:08 GMT -5
sometimes if I feel extra sick and rotted I will microwave it with the teabag in already
edit: also there was another shooting today
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Post by bear on Apr 13, 2022 21:20:36 GMT -5
the 20% chance of being multilingual.
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Post by B. on Apr 14, 2022 1:14:16 GMT -5
Some microwave their tea. Not to re-heat it, but to actually make it. that is effing horrifying |
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Post by B. on Apr 14, 2022 1:15:01 GMT -5
I'm not american, but just like the excessive capitalism, the infrastructure is based around cars rather than walking, the lack of healthcare
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Post by Violent BUN Fortuna on Apr 14, 2022 4:25:32 GMT -5
Also not American but jumping on the bandwagon lol — probably having to pay for being born? That seems totally nightmarish to me. And then the healthcare system in general.
Also the guns, and the excessive waste in any massively consumerist culture.
As a visitor though, last time I was in the US, the lack of old buildings made me very sad. And I really like the architecture in the US! I just missed castles and old stone a lot. And yeah, places being built for driving instead of walking was very difficult to get used to.
But everything was very pretty, lovely landscapes and sweet little towns with nice cafes and bookshops (here, have some positives as well).
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Post by Optimism is my Phil-osophy on Apr 14, 2022 4:33:55 GMT -5
I think it's wrong to talk about how bad it is to be born in a place without being born in this place. I think that people who are born in a certain place can, with a certain degree of justification, criticize some situations, some cultural aspect seen in many of the neighbors, bad decisions by some authorities and things like that. After all, the place where you are born is not to blame for these problems. Even people demonstrate certain types of behavior because of historical and social factors over which they have no control. Also, criticizing places that are really too big or where a lot of people with different cultures live is often unfair to a lot of people. Perhaps the only valid criticism regarding the place involves climatic issues, and issues involving fauna and flora. And as I said, even these issues become difficult to speak fairly when dealing with countries of continental proportions.
For example, I could say, "Being born in Brazil is bad because I have to deal with corruption every day." I would be saying that everyone born in Brazil has to deal with corruption every day... This is not necessarily true. And dealing with corruption is not exclusive to those born in Brazil. A better sentence would be: "Having to deal with corruption every day is a bad thing, and a good part of Brazilians feel affected by it, while others don't feel affected by it because they are the corrupt themselves, or because they are simply not directly affected by it". But that's too big a sentence. In addition to all this, I think the expression "being born in a certain place is bad" is very dangerous. In general, the bad thing is not being "born" in a certain place, but having a problem for being in that place at that time. Sometimes what bothers you the most may stop bothering you if it were possible for you to move, or if the people causing the problem disappeared (and others didn't show up causing the same problems).
Okay, and because I'm saying all this... I don't like nationalism. I think a lot of people have too strong feelings for the countries they were born in, and none of us have any control over that. Speeches of disparagement for the fact that someone was born in a certain country also make no sense to me, and only feed nationalism.
Let me cite an example involving our brilliant young man. He was born in the United States. And in a forum where educated people from all over the world, who were not born in the United States, talk about how bad it is to be born in the place where he was born. How does he deal with it in his mind? I don't know, I'm not him. But I know how I would feel as a teenager if someone from another country said that about the country I was born in. I would think "a bunch of people who don't know anything about what it's like to be Brazilian and the great things that exist around here and they only know what the media tells them. My country has its problems, but it's good because of that, and that. That's why I don't like foreigners." As a teenager I didn't have as mature a mind as I have today. But I know that a lot of people can't get over that kind of thinking, and we only feed a nationalism machine that is one of the engines for wars and xenophobia.
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Post by Violent BUN Fortuna on Apr 14, 2022 4:46:33 GMT -5
Idk, I think it's perfectly possible and reasonable to see the faults (and positives) in various countries, your own and others. There are plenty of terrible things about the UK (more everyday atm) and I certainly have no problem with people from other countries pointing them out. I don't think being able to see quite valid issues in any society feeds nationalism so long as you don't deny the issues in your own.
That said, I hope Semblnce knows we all very much appreciate his presence here, and don't care in the slightest where he's from. All countries have their positives and their negatives, and he's very much a positive for this forum.
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Post by Optimism is my Phil-osophy on Apr 14, 2022 4:50:17 GMT -5
Some microwave their tea. Not to re-heat it, but to actually make it. Still, he showed he was in on the fun. But we never know what goes on in the mind of the person typing. I don't know what happened to Dante in his teens while he was here. (And I won't be investing the past to find out). But I think there were times when he felt uncomfortable. And it seems those feelings of unease never quite left him. I think he couldn't leave the forum because of his attachment to asoue, but at the same time the feelings of revolt made him a person who had a thorn in his foot all the time while walking around here. And he took that with him until the moment he managed to kill the digital person he created, because he was able to let go of the forum, but maybe not the thorn. I wouldn't want anyone to feel this way because of our words. I'm not saying that will happen with Semblance. But the meta hypothesis that this happens to someone I care about makes me want to protect them. Idk, I think it's perfectly possible and reasonable to see the faults (and positives) in various countries, your own and others. There are plenty of terrible things about the UK (more everyday atm) and I certainly have no problem with people from other countries pointing them out. I don't think being able to see quite valid issues in any society feeds nationalism so long as you don't deny the issues in your own. That said, I hope Semblnce knows we all very much appreciate his presence here, and don't care in the slightest where he's from. All countries have their positives and their negatives, and he's very much a positive for this forum. I understand, and as always your way of speaking was very polite. It's different from saying "being born in a certain place is bad". I find it offensive when said like that.[/div] [/quote] |
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Post by B. on Apr 14, 2022 5:06:39 GMT -5
Interesting points raised here. There's bad things about everywhere in the world. I hope everyone knows here that regardless of nationality or culture, you're all welcome and valued members of 667  |
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Post by bear on Apr 14, 2022 9:52:18 GMT -5
edit: also there was another shooting today ive just learned that the perpetrator was Mr. Semblance, wearing a MAGA hat. damn………… |
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Post by the panopticountolaf on Apr 14, 2022 10:09:58 GMT -5
class/racial stratification is one of my least favorite parts of the US!! I used to live in a very diverse neighborhood but after having moved <5 miles (and in the same town, mind you) I now live in a neighborhood that is 97-98% white  It's very unsettling |
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Post by B. on Apr 14, 2022 12:14:44 GMT -5
class/racial stratification is one of my least favorite parts of the US!! I used to live in a very diverse neighborhood but after having moved <5 miles (and in the same town, mind you) I now live in a neighborhood that is 97-98% white It's very unsettling Do you identify as POC? I'm mixed, and my entire team I work with is all white people, it's v noticeable lol |
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Post by the panopticountolaf on Apr 14, 2022 12:56:29 GMT -5
I don't — my heritage is Greek + Japanese, actually. |
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Post by penne on Apr 14, 2022 21:19:31 GMT -5
i will say it doesn’t bother me much that americans call themselves americans and i think it’s so funny when that’s someone’s main gripe regarding the US like… pls… the world is actually burning babe
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It's very unsettling
