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Post by RiftTraveler on Oct 16, 2002 12:32:43 GMT -5
personally, what I think about the Quagmires is this:
1. The Quagmires are members of VFD.
Think about it. In Austere Academy, how did they get the information on Olaf so fast? Unless they already knew something about him, it would take more then a couple of days to have figured out all the stuff they did.
Also, I think it's highly suspect that they are constantly carrying around notebooks, and taking notes, and observing things, just like a VFDer is sposed to do.
So, I personally think the Quags are VFDers.
2. THey will be back.
I think they will be back as well, because of the name of Hector's airship. Deus Ex Machina is a concept from ancient greek/roman theatre in which the hero gets himself into a fix, and has no possible way to extricate himself. At that point, a large golden chariot swings down, with a god inside it, and carries the hero away to safety.
So, what I think, is that the name will be a self-fulfilling prophecy, and when the Bauds get into a fix they can't possibly get themselves out of, they will be rescued by the Quags sweeping down out of the sky. This may very possibly be in the last book, and the Survivng bauds (c'mon, you don't believe that they will ALL survive, do you?) wil live witht he Quagmires in the airship.
but wait, yous ay, what about the fire survivor? Irrelvant. It's not a Baudelaire anyway. I think it's a QUagmire, specifically because of the information on pg 9, just like the note says. Go ahead and read THH pg 9, tell me what you think. Also, there's a pic of the Quagmire triplets in LSUA, in the middle of the Zombies in the SNow info, where the fire survivor was.
SO, that's my two or three or ten, or perhaps $5.20 on th eQuagmires. Hope you appreciate it.
-Mike Cuellar
-Site Maintainer of the Lemony SNicket FAQ
-Htp://www.angelfire.com/ga2/LoneWolf/SnickStuff/LemonySnicket.html
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Post by Hermedy on Oct 16, 2002 15:37:12 GMT -5
(I knew you could, Mike  Anyways, I agree with you. They would never be able to find out about VFD so fast, unless they were already members of it. Think about it. They probably heard about the tattoo that Olaf had and immediately check up on him and any relation to VFD. Good thoughts! |
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Post by Indistinguishable Blob on Oct 17, 2002 7:05:47 GMT -5
Yeah. The whole swooping out of the sky in the hot air balloon to save the Baudelaires theory is just too far fetched.
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Post by RiftTraveler on Oct 31, 2002 12:08:24 GMT -5
Too farfetched, huh? Yeah, I supose that's right. THe idea is kinda far-fetched. it's absolutely NOT grounded in reality like most of the events in the series. Like when Sunny sword fights with her teeth.
or when she climbs up the elevator shaft with her teeth.
or when the Bauds escape from jail by driping water out of a loaf of bread onto a brick wall and wearing it away in a matte of hours.
or the Bauds staying up all night and running laps all night, and not suffering severe health problems.
It's completely farfetched, adn there's no way it'll happen. Riiiiiiiiiighht.
-Mike Cuellar
-Site Administrator of the Lemony Snicket FAQ
-Http://www.angelfire.com/ga2/LoneWolf/SnickStuff/LemonySnicket.html
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Post by bluesnicket on Nov 13, 2002 12:58:50 GMT -5
Too farfetched, huh? Yeah, I supose that's right. THe idea is kinda far-fetched. it's absolutely NOT grounded in reality like most of the events in the series. Like when Sunny sword fights with her teeth. or when she climbs up the elevator shaft with her teeth. or when the Bauds escape from jail by driping water out of a loaf of bread onto a brick wall and wearing it away in a matte of hours. or the Bauds staying up all night and running laps all night, and not suffering severe health problems. It's completely farfetched, adn there's no way it'll happen. Riiiiiiiiiighht. -Mike Cuellar -Site Administrator of the Lemony Snicket FAQ -Http://www.angelfire.com/ga2/LoneWolf/SnickStuff/LemonySnicket.html Exactly. Most of the things that happen in this book is so farfetched that something like a hot air balloon soaring out of the clouds at the last minute to save them sounds perfectly normal for this kind of book series. Oh, I so hope that all of them survive, though. That would be so sad if one of them died. |
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Post by Dark_Avenger on Nov 13, 2002 23:44:09 GMT -5
I think that the name of the balloon refered to Hector coming through the air to rescue them (though he only got .4 of all the children).
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Post by Beatrice on Nov 19, 2002 18:29:57 GMT -5
The Baudlaires have been in the "care" of V.F.D. from the fire to V.F.D.(the run in with Oliva was a "lucky" accident). We never knew Olaf was as evil as he is or we would not have sent the children to stay with him. Uncle Monty was informed of V.F.D., but unfortunatly was not able to understand the Sebald code so that he may take the children to safety. Ike, from Lake Larcymouse, belonged to V.F.D. and was keeping papers the children unfortunately did not stumble upon properly. At Lucky Smells our resident member turned on us and was killed. Quagmires do belong to V.F.D., which explains the notebooks in which they took notes and observed, which is what the members do best. Jacques was keeping an eye on the children when they were with Jerome and Esmè(who spoiled our plans when she turned against us) on Dark Ave from the V.F.D. Headquarters. Hector also belongs to V.F.D.(the "It takes a village to raise a child program was fraud).
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Post by Rima The Bird Girl on Dec 3, 2002 9:39:55 GMT -5
Perhaps this has been discussed and dismissed already, but to me it continues to seem likely that V.F.D. originally stood for the Volunteer Fire Department. Obviously the initials themselves have overshadowed whatever they originally represented (much like M.T.V.), and one name will no longer count for everything. It seems to me that what started as the Volunteer Fire Department was corrupted when one (or more) of its members began to set fires -- perhaps even in order to garner fame by extinguishing them, not unlike what happened this last summer in the Western U.S. Arson is truly a problem among volunteer fire squads. This may have been the corruption that led the V.F.D. to fission, espionage, and the excessive use of disguise.
"I understand. You can tell the bare facts. I can imagine something more, and the rest I must lose." -- W.H. Hudson
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Post by Rima The Bird Girl on Dec 3, 2002 9:50:42 GMT -5
This is what I was talking about: daily.iaff.org/112102cbs.htm"[Dan] Rather ended his report by saying that in too many volunteer fire departments, the most fundamental questions are not asked: * Who are you? * Why do you want to do this? * Can you be trusted?" Sounds to me like Rather has been reading ASOUE. |
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Post by Hermedy on Dec 3, 2002 14:27:51 GMT -5
Yes, you're right  It could be Volunteer Fire Department. I think it would be very characteristic of Daniel Handler to make it such a simple answer, so as to frustrate us all. BTW, thank you to Beatrice and Rima. I'm glad that we're getting some intelligent conversation. |
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Post by tealeaf on Mar 29, 2003 16:39:44 GMT -5
Okay...back on topic.
I agree with the Duex Ex Machina theory. I am also fairly positive that the Quagmires are VFDers. The idea that the survivor of the fire is a Quagmire, is very possible, but debatable. For instance, if the "fire" mentioned in The File was referring to the Quag. fire, than why would there be a picture of the Baudelaire parents, but NOT any of the Quags.? Also, in the code of Zombies in the Snow it says bring the three children. If those hiding the survivor knew that this person was the only survivor wouldn't they say, "Bring the two children"? *goes off to look at pg. 9 of THH*
The Unofficial FAQ rocks, by the way!
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Post by TheShinyEye on Jun 11, 2003 13:09:49 GMT -5
It's simple who's in the snowman- Qugiley! It makes sense...
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Post by Tyler on Jun 14, 2003 12:28:12 GMT -5
No!There were the three Quagmires and the snowman!
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Post by Pester, Rumormonger on Jul 20, 2003 22:31:28 GMT -5
No!There were the three Quagmires and the snowman! I don't think the three children were Quagmires, since the triplets had very dark hair and large eyes, and the three children in that picture were blonde. I think that they are another threesome of orphans, who haven't appeared yet. The Snickets are too old, and the Baudelaires were certainly not there at that time. |
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Post by CountQuagmire on Jul 21, 2003 14:04:28 GMT -5
Why would the pic been send to Prutfrock Prep?
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