awpoue
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Post by awpoue on Jan 15, 2004 22:33:43 GMT -5
knowing my luck, this has been brought up before, but in TSS page 101 it has this to say:
Your suggestion, so many years ago at that picnic, that a teaset would be a handy place to hide anything important and small in the event of a dark day, has turned out to be correct.
that was part of Lemony's letter to his sister. does this mean that she invented the use for the sugarbowl? (which is definitely for hiding something)
a little help?
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Post by DetectiveDupin on Jan 16, 2004 12:12:02 GMT -5
You know, I don't think it had been posted.
Maybe it's the hiding place for the sugar bowl, because it makes it look casual with all the other tea set equipment.
Not that a sugar bowl would appear suspicious anywhere to me...
But to V.F.Ders, it could be completley different.
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Post by SnicketFires on Jan 16, 2004 21:27:35 GMT -5
I got the impression that she created the sugar bowl secret too.
And, In TSS, Esmé and Olaf were fighting, They were fighting over the fortune, and the sugar bowl. Olaf was fortune and Esmé was sugar bowl. What would posess Esmé to want it more than eternal riches? It must contain a very "in" secret.
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Post by JM on Jan 17, 2004 17:18:27 GMT -5
it could be the evidense to put esme in jail since she killed beatrice well i think or did she die in a fire but then if she the baudelaires mother she survived the tea party but then there is no evidense there fore she beatrice might not be the mom
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Post by Jacques the Environmentalist on Jan 17, 2004 17:24:27 GMT -5
Some people think that the sugarbowl secret is simply concealing a microphone inside a sugarbowl in order to secretly record a conversation, so maybe it holds a conversation that puts Esme and co. into hot water. Beatrice went to tea with Esme and Lemony stole the sugarbowl, but since Esme had last seen it when she was with Beatrice she thought Beatrice stole it and wanted vengeance.
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Post by Efogoto on Jan 28, 2004 12:38:30 GMT -5
If the sugar bowl in TSS is the sugar bowl from TEE, then the secret it contains would not be the evidence against Esmé because its contents would pre-date the murder of Beatrice. Since Esmé once possessed this sugar bowl, she knows what's in it and knows its value, which may be in some part be emotional value in its recovery. Olaf may simply prefer cash over the difficulties of recovering the sugar bowl then converting whatever secret it holds into cash.
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Post by Sometimes A on Jan 28, 2004 13:55:44 GMT -5
Perhaps Olaf does not know exactly what is in the missing sugar bowl, only what Esme has told him. Or maybe whatever the sugar bowl means doesn't concern him as much as it does Esme...
Another mentioning of a sugar bowl is in LSUA p. 121 in the menu, but only for breakfast and lunch (a time issue? maybe, if someone was supposed to get the sugar bowl BEFORE a specific time). Also, notice the phrase below the address. I think it translates to "Here, the world is calm."
So, anyway, a sugar bowl having something to do with V.F.D. and therefore Esme makes sense, non?
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Post by SnicketFires on Jan 28, 2004 22:22:48 GMT -5
It actually translates to "The world is quiet here"
Olaf probably only has a vague idea of the secret of the sugar bowl, only that it has some information against him, or that could incriminate him.
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Post by PJ on Jun 25, 2004 2:31:33 GMT -5
Didn't Olaf and Esmé agree that once the snicket file was burnt, there would not be any evidence left, in either TCC or TSS?
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Antenora
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Post by Antenora on Jul 14, 2004 16:33:34 GMT -5
I believe that the sugar bowls are used to hide written messages, or as tape recorders. Hence, one could contain a recording of an important conversation, or a letter containing something inexplicably important. Maybe the sugar bowl is valuble in and of itself, containing diamonds or something equally desirable to Esme. But it seems more likely that she wants it--to destroy it-- because the evidence inside can incriminate her.
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Post by sunnygal on Jul 23, 2004 14:10:25 GMT -5
what if the letters in 'sugarbowl' stand for something?
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Post by Antenora on Jul 23, 2004 15:42:29 GMT -5
Off the top of my head: Superpowered Undersea Ghostbusting Atomic Robotic...oh forget it. So, I don't think they stand for anything really.
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Post by Jacques the Environmentalist on Jul 23, 2004 17:27:39 GMT -5
I believe that the sugar bowls are used to hide written messages, or as tape recorders. Hence, one could contain a recording of an important conversation, or a letter containing something inexplicably important. Maybe the sugar bowl is valuble in and of itself, containing diamonds or something equally desirable to Esme. But it seems more likely that she wants it--to destroy it-- because the evidence inside can incriminate her. That's what I was thinking. Some conversation with Esme talking about some incriminating evidence(since it was once her sugarbowl she wasn't afraid of mentioning incriminating things) |
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Post by Sora on Jul 24, 2004 21:34:20 GMT -5
Well if the Baudelaire's are looking in the water for it, then wouldn't have short-circuted?
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Post by Antenora on Jul 24, 2004 21:53:10 GMT -5
Maybe the sugar bowl's waterproof, assuming it contains circuitry of any sort. VFD would want to prepare for the worst by waterproofing, fireproofing, and foolproofing everything, even tea set items. Because the worst usually happens to them.
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