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Post by Alfred is Present on Dec 19, 2005 8:37:15 GMT -5
Someone can lock this thread if it proved to be useless, a waste of space, stupidity or all.
Well, whad'ya think?
Used to be crucial, like the sugarbowl - fell into a pond, together with catalog and corpse. Snicket file - nowhere until TSS. Quagmire notebooks (?) - with quagmires; no apparent issue.
Discuss.
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Post by lauren on Dec 19, 2005 9:41:02 GMT -5
Oh the sugarbowl is not at the bottom of the lake no more, I think it's suggested that it's in the back of a taxi with a woman. I don't think Daniel wants us to forget about the sugar bowl it keeps reaccuring throughout the story. But it is true we haven't heard about the Snicket file in some time. I don't think it will be mentioned again, after all they already know one of their parents are alive from pg 13. Hmmm but it would be interesting if the Baudelaires found pg9 of the file and there was some big twist like the survivor was someone other than their parents. (by the way I love your signature  ) |
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Post by Antenora on Dec 19, 2005 10:44:18 GMT -5
I think some mysteries in the series--particularly the Question Mark--will never really be resolved. Handler has made it clear that we'll have to imagine some things that we won't find out about, in TPP. I suspect that even if we won't actually see the sugar bowl, that is, the Baudelaires won't find it, we'll hear about it somehow. We'll have to fit clues together and fill in some gaps ourselves to completely make sense of things.
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Post by Dante on Dec 19, 2005 11:07:16 GMT -5
The Quagmire notebooks - or at least, what scraps remain - are in the hands of Violet, Klaus, and Sunny. However, certain pages of those - particularly a list of dates - have never been mentioned again. Similarly, we don't know what Olaf did with the Snicket File. The true meaning of page 13 remains unknown. The sugar bowl, though, I'm almost certain is in the taxi with the Chapter Ten taxi driver. The only reason I'm "almost certain" is because it was written ambiguously, and you can't trust Snicket with ambiguity, as we discovered with the laundry room references in TGG.
I'm certainly suspicious of the way some things haven't been mentioned recently, but I don't know if Handler will resolve them.
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Post by Alfred is Present on Dec 20, 2005 16:20:34 GMT -5
Oh, of course. I forgot the harpooned-the-notebooks thing so it was reduced to mere scraps, picked up by the Baudelaires.
Sugar bowl - now that I come to think of it, we should really hear about it on the next book or any book Snicket will release. Why its just the reason of wading on the Stricken Stream or the whole plot of Olaf on TPP!
I like my own idea, having the sugarbowl being washed off the pond (suppose a passage way was there), then it arrived at a treasure, then Pirates will eventually snatch it.
Snicket File - miss you.
Quag ntbks: It's with the Baudelaires? I thought they changed their clothes? No need to hide on a tree if you'll just wear a disguise abouve your clothes. Anyway, it might be crucial. But I remember another notebook: Quigley's. And another - Kit's.
(I can't find a smaller old picture for my sig.)
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Post by Dante on Dec 20, 2005 16:26:06 GMT -5
Quigley and Kit still have their notebooks (actually, I'm not sure we even saw Kit's - she might just have said that she hadn't the time to update it). And Frank and Ernest had commonplace books, too. Nearly every volunteer has a commonplace book, so I don't think there's much point to focussing on any unless they're actually made out to be significant, such as Duncan's and Isadora's were (and I imagine Klaus hung onto the scraps of paper and put them in his own commonplace book when he received it, although the scraps probably weren't mentioned after THH). Klaus had Quigley's notebook for quite a while in TSS, but he didn't mention any of the contents, so we can assume that what he read wasn't particularly revelatory. However, Quigley did say that he had evidence in his commonplace book to prove that Olaf burnt down the homes of people who joined him.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2005 17:58:03 GMT -5
From book 7+ it is like one long book, so I don't think he is making us forget, just building suspense.
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Post by Grace on Dec 24, 2005 14:29:59 GMT -5
Yeah, I sort of thought the Quagmire notebooks/Snicket file were a bit forgotten, especially during Bk 12. I'm waiting for the Baudelaires to actually read the Quag notes already! And whatever became of the Snicket file? Do the Sinister Duo still have it, or did something else happen?
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Post by Dante on Dec 24, 2005 14:36:12 GMT -5
Last we looked, as I mentioned four posts above you, Olaf had the Snicket File, having just been given it by the sinister duo as a reward for burning down Caligari Carnival. Those wicked two, Olaf, and Esmé then retreated into their tent to examine and discuss its contents, and it was never seen again.
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Post by twistedbrain on Dec 24, 2005 19:26:26 GMT -5
Well I sure hope we see the file again. Or maybe it's copied down in the real Hotel Denoument(spelling?), just in case Olaf ever did get his hands on it.
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Post by lemony2012 on Dec 29, 2005 12:03:59 GMT -5
i definitely want to know what is in that file
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Post by Alfred is Present on Jan 1, 2006 1:28:06 GMT -5
I am sorry if I keep pointing this out, but some unknown pages of the Snicket file are published in the TUA, so I suppose you read it already, though nobody really knows which is it.
Definitely not Page 13.
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Post by Alice Wilde on Jan 2, 2006 14:28:25 GMT -5
If the Snicket File is still with Olaf, than sometime in the next book, seeing as Olaf is outnumbered and trapped on a small boat with the Baudelaires, they will probably make him reveal its contents. Also, maybe even what was in the sugar bowl.
If the Man in Chapter Ten comes back, we will see the contents of the sugar bowl, and it's importance.
As for the notebooks...My second choice as to who will reveal all the mysteries in the series are the Quagmires, who will explain everything about VFD, thus rendering their notebooks obsolete.
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Post by twistedbrain on Jan 2, 2006 18:28:01 GMT -5
Somehow, I figured Olaf wouldn't carry that around, for that exact reason. Maybe he even burned it.
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Post by kindofmonday on Jan 5, 2006 16:49:05 GMT -5
on page thirteen of the snicket file there's the picture of their parents and jacques and it said that there was one survior of the fire, wouldn't that be implying that one of the people in the picture was alive? So couldn't that just mean Jacques?
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