So, Senator!
Catastrophic Captain
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Post by So, Senator! on Sept 22, 2004 12:09:53 GMT -5
It depends how you look at it. Potentially, they still have each other, they're still alive, etc., but in reality, their parents are dead, they are constantly running, and so on. But because the *real* luck seems to never change, but potentially something good is happening, I would have to say they're getting luckier.
If that makes any sense.
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Post by Ace is Back! on Sept 26, 2004 16:47:09 GMT -5
Dude at the start, their parents were dead and their house burned down. NOOOOOW theyr hunted by the police, Olaf is presumed dead, the VFD headquarters is burnt and two quagmires r trapped in a ballooon. Monty and Josephine r dead Aswell as Jaques. And now they meet two ppl who r more evil than Olaf and you say their getting luckier? Their luck is DYING ppl. If anything, its getting worse. That about covers it. |
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Post by Gerlox on Oct 1, 2004 9:43:53 GMT -5
well even if they are getting luckyier, its probably the calm beofre the storm? something major is going to happen at the end of the 12th or middle of the 13th book i think. i still didnt get my TGG copy yet. stupid amazon. but yeah i think theyre gunna get one thing of semi-good luck then get major badness
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Post by izzie on Dec 11, 2004 18:54:14 GMT -5
I think they're pretty lucky to begin with. They still have the fortune. They are still ALIVE. They are still together! That seems pretty lucky to me ..... The thing is they were always lucky just not as much as they would like to be. I agree with these people. Although the Baudelaires aren't VERY lucky and are in vague jeapordy, they are lucky to have their fortune unharmed as well as themselves. They saved Sunny's life. Lucky. They've met up with Kit Snicket. Lucky. I think that it's a mixture of good and bad. There isn't one book that the Baudelaire's aren't both lucky and unlucky in. |
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Post by Jacques the Environmentalist on Dec 11, 2004 19:55:18 GMT -5
Yes, in a way they're extremely unlucky, being accused of murder, having no forthcoming adults who can help them, having the police always bungle a count olaf chase and having their parents dead, but when you look on the other side of things they are lucky.
If stephano's suitcase hadn't suddenly popped open they might be dead in Peru. If they hadn't looked close enough to Josephine's message in tww they would be with captain sham, 2 of them probably drowned. If Olaf hadn't taken off his sunglasses and Esme hadn't hit the crow VFD would have burnt them to a crisp.
So there's 2 sides of the situation... I suppose they're both lucky and unlucky.
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Post by Dante on Dec 12, 2004 2:54:20 GMT -5
They think they're unlucky; Olaf thinks they're lucky. They think the tables turned the day their home was destroyed; Olaf thinks the tables turned when he caught them in his submarine. It all depends on whose side you look at it from.
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Post by izzie on Dec 12, 2004 11:29:53 GMT -5
They think they're unlucky; Olaf thinks they're lucky. They think the tables turned the day their home was destroyed; Olaf thinks the tables turned when he caught them in his submarine. It all depends on whose side you look at it from. Yes, I concur |
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Post by Jacques the Environmentalist on Dec 12, 2004 19:36:31 GMT -5
They think they're unlucky; Olaf thinks they're lucky. They think the tables turned the day their home was destroyed; Olaf thinks the tables turned when he caught them in his submarine. It all depends on whose side you look at it from. No, Olaf thinks the tables turned when their home was destroyed too: "I triumphed the day you lost your family." |
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Post by izzie on Dec 13, 2004 15:19:03 GMT -5
I concur... wait, who's side am I on?  |
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Post by Dante on Dec 14, 2004 14:38:00 GMT -5
No, Olaf thinks the tables turned when their home was destroyed too: "I triumphed the day you lost your family." Actually, we're both wrong. A few sentences earlier he said that they'd kept on escaping from him and ruining his plans, but that "the tables had turned" and that they had run out of places to hide. At the time in question Olaf was trying to escape the question mark for the second time, whereas I thought it was when he had first captured the Queequeg. Of course, the second time, when he had to try and get away from the question mark once more, he didn't expect them to escape, and so the tables turned once again. |
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Post by Jacques the Environmentalist on Dec 17, 2004 20:22:42 GMT -5
Suffice it to say that the tables turn quite a lot even if Handler has only mentioned it once or twice.
For instance, the tables turned in trr when uncle monty died. But then they turned again when Violet opened the suitcase and showed everyone the evidence. Then they turned yet again when Fernald helped Olaf escape.
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