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Post by BlackCherry667 on May 20, 2004 20:54:46 GMT -5
Who thinks that Mr. Poe is one of the badduns (bad guys; working for Olaf,ect.)? I do. I'm mean, he's just too aloof. My theory: Mr. Poe used to be in V.F.D, and is helping Olaf. Anyone agree?
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Post by Antenora on May 21, 2004 14:48:36 GMT -5
I think so too. Remember the time he called some restaurant instead of the police? That was on purpose. He's let Olaf escape, and possibly helped him find the children if Lulu didn't have the right evidence.
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Post by Tyler on May 21, 2004 17:50:48 GMT -5
Mr. Poe is obviously on Olaf's side.
There were other threasds about this in TWW section, but oh well. It's not like it's a big deal or anything.
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Post by BlackCherry667 on May 21, 2004 17:54:34 GMT -5
Mr. Poe is obviously on Olaf's side. There were other threasds about this in TWW section, but oh well. It's not like it's a big deal or anything. Oh. I didn't check there... Oh well.
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Post by BlackCherry667 on May 21, 2004 17:56:23 GMT -5
I think so too. Remember the time he called some restaurant instead of the police? That was on purpose. He's let Olaf escape, and possibly helped him find the children if Lulu didn't have the right evidence. I didn't think about that...Maybe Poe was even helping Lulu. That would be weird...
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Post by Tyler on May 21, 2004 18:09:06 GMT -5
It's okay. Besides, it's okay to have two threads of the same topic in different boards...
...Right?
Gah, it doesn't really matter. (:
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Post by BlackCherry667 on May 21, 2004 19:59:29 GMT -5
It's okay. Besides, it's okay to have two threads of the same topic in different boards... ...Right? Gah, it doesn't really matter. (: Yep.
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Post by isadora667 on May 22, 2004 10:36:23 GMT -5
maybe he had some sort of grudge on the baudelaire family and is now working for Olaf.
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Post by isadora667 on May 22, 2004 10:37:15 GMT -5
but i think he was a good V.F.D'er at one time
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Post by AssortedCookies on May 27, 2004 0:29:37 GMT -5
My thoughts have always been that Mr. Poe is just a pawn in a crook's game.
I knew that Mr. Poe's wife looked up to Esme, who definitely works for Olaf, so I think that perhaps Olaf could make Esme do something, that makes Mr. Poe's wife do something, that makes Mr. Poe do something. That probably didn't make much sense, did it?
Although, now that it is brought up, it isn't too difficult to phone the police, how could he mistake 911 for a restaurant's phone number? Unless, at the time these books take place, 911 is not the shortcut phone number for the police in an emergency?
Does anybody know when 911 became the designated shortcut for emergercies?
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Post by Antenora on May 27, 2004 14:45:58 GMT -5
Although, now that it is brought up, it isn't too difficult to phone the police, how could he mistake 911 for a restaurant's phone number? Unless, at the time these books take place, 911 is not the shortcut phone number for the police in an emergency? Does anybody know when 911 became the designated shortcut for emergercies? Good point, AssortedCookies. I don't know when 911 became the designated police number, but let's assume it is in the books. If Mr. Poe supposedly intended to call 911 but got a restaurant, there are two explanations: 1. He is severely lacking in phone-button-pressing or phone-dialing skills, raising his patheticness to new levels. 2. He didn't want to call the police, but just pretended to in order to trick the orphans. The question boils down to: Which explanation is more plausible? Lack of dexterity or sinister intentions? You decide.
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Post by kjlsnicket29 on May 27, 2004 16:36:03 GMT -5
Yes. I think he is SOMEWHAT working for Olaf, and/or was a good V.F.Der before, now on the bad side. Also, he said in LSUA on the page with the conversation in the restaurant, that he was on official bank business not so long ago and had a very nice lunch, EVEN IF ONE OF MY COMPANIONS TURNED OUT TO BE A NOTORIOUS CRIMINAL. He could mean Lemony because the Daily Punctilio called him a criminal, or Olaf. I think it's both. Olaf more, though, because his name is COUNT Olaf, making him, I think having to do with.......money? ....I forget a lot, if you don't know.....
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Post by AssortedCookies on May 28, 2004 23:43:47 GMT -5
Good point, AssortedCookies. I don't know when 911 became the designated police number, but let's assume it is in the books. If Mr. Poe supposedly intended to call 911 but got a restaurant, there are two explanations: 1. He is severely lacking in phone-button-pressing or phone-dialing skills, raising his patheticness to new levels. 2. He didn't want to call the police, but just pretended to in order to trick the orphans. The question boils down to: Which explanation is more plausible? Lack of dexterity or sinister intentions? You decide. Thanks, it isn't often 'newbie swine' like me get complimented on posts. I'm vying for lack of dexterity. Mr. Poe never struck me as exactly a brilliant man. But there is still this nagging voice in my head, saying: How could anyone be that unintelligent? More to the point, how could anyone that unintelligent be an important banking official?
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Post by negativenine on May 28, 2004 23:53:54 GMT -5
True. And if I remember correctly from swans's typing out of some TBB:RE notes for us, there was something that pointed out that there was some sort of link bewteen Mr. Poe and Esmé Squalor. It may have been as simple as hinting that banking officials are corrupt or tend to know eachother... I'm not quite sure. Anyway, the insinuation was there.
But either way, there's probably something afoot with dear Poey. So if we say that he's just a stupid guy, then that pretty much means he can be anyone's puppet... I mean, a man that stupid can be manipulated by anyone. Who knows, maybe that's why he rose to the high status of official in charge of coins! *cue "Oooh"s and "aaaah"s* But seriously, if we go for the option that he REALLY is an idiot, it pretty much means they control him, because, let's face it, there have just been WAY too many times where Poe's been too stupid to be reasonable... coincidences that just happened to end up with some escape plan for Olaf. So if he really is as studip ad he looks, the baddies are probably taking advantage of that, and Lemony's probably hinting at it. Granted, the other guardians had some weird things up with them, but we're pretty much sure they were also affiliated with VFD.
But if we say that he's just putting on an act of idiocy, then we can come to pretty much the same conclusion but by different means.
Remember TUA? At the time I thought, "Why is Mr. Poe not as useful as he ought to be?" a slightly stupid and not too common question (like "Who is Beatrice?" for example). I guess it looks like LS was hinting at something in including that among the "least" important questions.
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Post by royalvioletta on May 29, 2004 11:30:06 GMT -5
I wish I knew more about the link between Esmé and Mr. Poe...I mean, if she's the city's sixth most important financial advisor, they must have at least seen each other at company Christmas parties...or, er, company Yom Kippur parties.
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