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Post by RockSunner on Dec 22, 2004 9:13:02 GMT -5
"Madame diLustro, I believe I have discovered your real identity!" I think Madame diLustro is another name for Madame Lulu. Evidence: 1) Both are called Madame, and that's not a commonly-used title. 2) diLustro is a good detective. Lulu uses detective work to answer questions. 3) diLustro is a good cook. Olaf's troupe found good food when they visited Lulu. 4) Lulu has a secret identity: Olivia. 5) Lemony trusted diLustro. Lulu was able to tell people who asked that he was alive. 6) "Lulu di Lustro" is a cool name.
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Post by Dante on Dec 22, 2004 9:58:32 GMT -5
The only real flaw in this is that Olivia wasn't really all that trustworthy.
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Post by pohatufan1 on Dec 22, 2004 14:14:35 GMT -5
Yes, and he refers to Madame diLustro in the present tense even though Madame Lulu is dead.
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Post by QuagmireFan on Dec 22, 2004 14:46:31 GMT -5
LuluDi Lustro is an awesome name.
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Post by Who wants to know? on Dec 22, 2004 17:44:07 GMT -5
i think so 2. . . she wuz just a confuzzled person. . . cunfuzzled. . .what a funny word!
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Post by RockSunner on Dec 22, 2004 20:44:19 GMT -5
Yes, and he refers to Madame diLustro in the present tense even though Madame Lulu is dead. That's a good point. Here's the present-tense reference from TRR p. 92 (Lemony's about to have dinner with her). If my theory is correct, this was written before she died, of course. Madame diLustro is a good friend, an excellent detective, and a fine cookThe quote in TGG about her real identity refers to a past conversation, so it provides no clue to whether she is dead or alive at the time of writing. Since Olivia died between TRR and TGG, it could still work. Lemony would have had to misjudge her character pretty badly to trust her as a friend, but that's also possible.
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Post by PJ on Dec 24, 2004 20:17:19 GMT -5
Isn't TRR also the one where he claims that Klaus, years later, would wish he had called the Taxi Driver Back? In that case, he should have known that Lulu is dead. UNLEEEEES he hadn't seen her since she died, and he only researched the carnival later. But I still doubt it's her. The only real similarity is Madame. So no, I think not.
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Post by RockSunner on Dec 29, 2004 13:14:11 GMT -5
Isn't TRR also the one where he claims that Klaus, years later, would wish he had called the Taxi Driver Back? In that case, he should have known that Lulu is dead. UNLEEEEES he hadn't seen her since she died, and he only researched the carnival later. But I still doubt it's her. The only real similarity is Madame. So no, I think not. PJ, you are being inconsistent when you apply temporal logic to ASOUE, since you say elsewhere that "the timeline is completely screwed up." By arguing as you do here, you are saying you do believe in a timeline. My theory of an early edition which is revised with later changes takes care of this problem. IMHO, places in which L.S. is interrupted in mid-story, such as to have dinner with Madade diLustro, take place in original-story-writing time. Places in which Lemony talks of thing happening "years later" are part of the revised edition.
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