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Post by Charles Vane on Apr 20, 2004 21:51:52 GMT -5
So we're just doing the majority vote then? No secluding us in a fancy hotel with free food until we've come to a consensus? Darn, what's the point? Are we ready to start? Oh or does someone need to help Kobolos?
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Post by Pester, Rumormonger on Apr 20, 2004 21:52:59 GMT -5
Do they, like, deliberate in the bravenet room or just list their opinions one by one here?
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Post by ŘỠßëřŦ on Apr 20, 2004 21:53:21 GMT -5
Let's start.
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Post by Charles Vane on Apr 20, 2004 21:53:46 GMT -5
We have a bravenet room? Gosh I'm so behind.
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Post by JeromeSqualor on Apr 20, 2004 21:57:11 GMT -5
Question... Because I'd like to say what I have to, and also because I think it would be extremely fun, does Kobolos get to ask me questions on the stand, as well as swans a fine example in the insulting (Kobo), because I'd like to provide reasons and answers, but i am not sure as to what you all would like me to answer...
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Post by ŘỠßëřŦ on Apr 20, 2004 21:57:46 GMT -5
No! We can't do it in the chatroom! I'm in the jury and I don't have Java!
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Post by ŘỠßëřŦ on Apr 20, 2004 21:59:05 GMT -5
Question... Because I'd like to say what I have to, and also because I think it would be extremely fun, does Kobolos get to ask me questions on the stand, as well as swans a fine example in the insulting (Kobo), because I'd like to provide reasons and answers, but i am not sure as to what you all would like me to answer... Don't worry about what to say as long as you say something defending your case.
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Post by JeromeSqualor on Apr 20, 2004 21:59:53 GMT -5
How can we start the trial? My counsel is not present... We need to have a set time...
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Post by ŘỠßëřŦ on Apr 20, 2004 22:02:01 GMT -5
Maybe we can do it now and everyone involved can just say something when they come on.
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Post by JeromeSqualor on Apr 20, 2004 22:03:14 GMT -5
Well, how do we start? What happens first?
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Post by Kobolos on Apr 20, 2004 22:24:45 GMT -5
Did no one read my last post?
We may not need a trial depending on the reasons for the three strikes...Swans and I are collecting evidence and talking in PMs about how to proceed.
I'd like to remind you of the Mod's request...
but I tell you now, Jerome, you should take the advice of your Counsel. Be silent.
We're already up to 7 pages, you can all do the two counsels a service by cutting the chatter we have to wade through.
Thanks.
and PS. I'm NOT 33......
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Post by Hermedy on Apr 21, 2004 6:30:32 GMT -5
Okay, look.
All you got to do is prove that Jerome has broken a decree on three different occurences after being warned at least once. If all three of those infractions can't be explained by the defendant, then he's guilty, and we go to the jury for the sentence.
No need to make things complicated.
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Post by Kobolos on Apr 21, 2004 8:09:37 GMT -5
Okay, look. All you got to do is prove that Jerome has broken a decree on three different occurences after being warned at least once. If all three of those infractions can't be explained by the defendant, then he's guilty, and we go to the jury for the sentence. No need to make things complicated. Actually, what I thought was going to be pretty straightforward has turned into a lack of cooperation, a general air of malice, and an assault on my character and fairly complicated.
In my legal opinion, Since someone on staff has taken up the mantle of Defender, I as a non-moderator should step down as Prosecuter, to be filled only with one of the two Mods that govern over the "Objectionable Other" section or a recognized Moderator from another section. That is the only fair balance, otherwise I am at a disadvantage.
The reason for my withdrawl is as follows...the person who gave Jerome his strikes should work in tandem or Prosecute as they have the evidence that needs to be made public.
A sidenote to Tragedy, you should consider the decrees and amend them to include guidelines for moderators so that the general population can be aware of their rights if they think a Moderator is abusing their powers.
Thank you and good-night.
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Post by Hermedy on Apr 21, 2004 8:32:04 GMT -5
And what kinds of rights should those be?
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Post by Kobolos on Apr 21, 2004 8:51:59 GMT -5
And what kinds of rights should those be? It's not about rights other than everyone gets a fair shake ont his board. One course of thinking is that some people are having Strikes wiped away and others are being seen as being unfairly punished. If this is true, some of your Mods should be brought to task. The very point of trial is to have a fair hearing after one has received a warning and three strikes.
Due to privacy issues, it is my understanding that the Mods in question will not release the incidents (regarding Jerome) that the strikes were given...therefore how does one defend the Strikes and need for Trial? The guidelines needed should be administered to all Mods and followed to the letter.
What those laws of conduct should be is not for me to decide, you should have a meeting of staff and hammer it out.
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