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Post by Dante on Mar 23, 2005 11:04:39 GMT -5
I took "convenient" to mean "convenient for the children." Of course, Mr. Poe may well have interpreted that differently.
I think that Olaf is indeed related to the Baudelaires, as I see no reason why he should not be.
And to be fair, it can be difficult knowing who one is related to and who isn't. The Baudelaire parents might not have known that Olaf was related to them (improbable) or they might not have known that he was living in the city (still improbable, but slightly more probable) or they could have trusted Mr. Poe to put the children with somebody more suitable (very probable) or they could have written that will a long time ago and not particularly expected to die so soon (most likely).
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Post by brenton on Apr 19, 2005 23:53:22 GMT -5
I seriously think count olaf IS related to the baudelaires ... i have no idea how but i think it could be something vital to the baudelaire case
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Post by Linda Rhaldeen on Apr 23, 2005 3:00:55 GMT -5
Does it actually say Olaf's exact relation to the Baudelaires? Because I always thought Olaf was Mr. Baudelaire's cousin because of what was said in TWW about the cousin that burned ants. I believe Lemony says that that's the sort of thing that only Count Olaf would do.
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Post by Dante on Apr 23, 2005 3:10:45 GMT -5
Does it actually say Olaf's exact relation to the Baudelaires? Because I always thought Olaf was Mr. Baudelaire's cousin because of what was said in TWW about the cousin that burned ants. I believe Lemony says that that's the sort of thing that only Count Olaf would do. Mr. Baudelaire's cousin from TWW was female - I can't find the page to check, but we had this debate before. Olaf's exact relation to the Baudelaires was given by Mr. Poe in TBB, who said that he was either a fourth cousin three times removed, or a third cousin four times removed.
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Post by Linda Rhaldeen on Apr 23, 2005 4:39:36 GMT -5
I'm sorry, I read that thread about half an hour after I posted that. I thought I knew quite a bit about these books, but I've learned a ton just since I joined a few hours ago. Sorry again, I'll try to be more observant next time.
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Post by Dante on Apr 23, 2005 4:45:09 GMT -5
I'm sorry, I read that thread about half an hour after I posted that. I thought I knew quite a bit about these books, but I've learned a ton just since I joined a few hours ago. Sorry again, I'll try to be more observant next time. The fact that you said that makes you a good deal better than most other new members.
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Post by Shelly on Apr 26, 2005 20:23:47 GMT -5
He is their fourth cousin three times removed or a thrid cousin four times removed.
I reckon Olaf hacked into the will and replaced it with a new one, then he burnt down the home. I also think the Baudelaire parents are alive but they escaped the fire and won't show themselves otherwise Olaf will go after them and . . . you know what would happen!
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Post by Ennui on Apr 27, 2005 6:55:19 GMT -5
If that theory holds, then it's genetically peculiar that such craven parents should produce such heroic children, and environmentally odd that said children have any respect for said parents whatsoever...
No. Two Baudelaires, at least one of whom is dead, is my verdict. And I'd far rather it were two.
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Post by SnicketFires on Apr 29, 2005 17:42:32 GMT -5
If that theory holds, then it's genetically peculiar that such craven parents should produce such heroic children, and environmentally odd that said children have any respect for said parents whatsoever... No. Two Baudelaires, at least one of whom is dead, is my verdict. And I'd far rather it were two. Hmm... I hadn't considered the Baudelaires. According to my commonplace book, I considered the following sets of siblings, with the bold names being the one who is dead: -Lemony, Jacques, Kit -Duncan, Isadora, Quigley (proven false) -Hector, Ike, Gregor (assuming, of course that Hector is indeed a sibling, and that either Ike or Gregor is dead. Pick one.) - Beatrice, [insert sibling], [insert sibling] (either of the two unknown siblings could be the Powder Twins, Esmé and her unknown sister, and/or the Duchess R.) Can you add any to this list?
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Post by Ennui on Apr 29, 2005 23:26:31 GMT -5
Well...the Baudelaires aren't siblings...though it would be cool and Watch Your Mouth-ish if they were, I really doubt it. So I was just using the phrase as a sort of verbal flourish, without any hidden significance...
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Post by tifah4 on May 4, 2005 6:50:07 GMT -5
i think that Mr.Poe works with olaf so i think he helped cause the fire and then brought violet klus and sunny to olaf thinking that he would steel there fourtune the minute they steep foot into his house then split it with him
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Post by PJ on May 7, 2005 2:56:07 GMT -5
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Post by cakesniffer on May 8, 2005 1:30:46 GMT -5
i think mr. poe is related to the baudelaires, but they just don't know it
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Post by bobette on May 15, 2005 13:54:46 GMT -5
Maybe the will was written before the schism, and "family members" are actually members of VFD and they forgot to change their will after the schism. Maybe Poe is working for Olaf and thats why he's not helping the Bauds at all. Maybe "convenient" actually means convenient for Olaf. If the children were in his custody, it would be very easy to take their money, or so he thought. Whenever the children change guardians, it seems like they are pretty dense. Perhaps Poe knows which members of VFD would be best to have the children with to help Olaf get their money.
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Post by Grace on May 22, 2005 14:13:45 GMT -5
Forgive me if this hasn't already been said, but he CLAIMS he is their third cousin four times removed or fourth cousin three times removed, but he actually isn't. He just did it to get the $.
And do you really think the Baud parents would let them go to Count Olaf? They'd never even met him, as far as we know. Olaf obviously found some way to change the will. With idiots like Poe bumbling around in politics, who knows what he could do?!
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