Post by Hermes (or Herms) on Apr 4, 2011 9:51:45 GMT -5
Ike's mother also had the unibrow - and the family tree, read the most straightforward way, suggests the Anwhistles are related to the Snickets and Olaf.
There's also a rather more abstract resemblance between Ike and Beatrice, in that they can both whistle with their mouths full - the way Josphine puts it suggests it was a family resemblance. (Ike could be be related to Beatrice through hsi father and to the Snickets through his mother.)
'The difference between the two sides of the schism is that one side puts out fires, and the other starts them' - Klaus Baudelaire.
Whether he is related to the Baudelaire's or not he knew about their giant fortune (obviously everyone could see their mansion!) but it is possible he forged a will or even made the Baudelaire parents write the will in order to get it. However, then why would it not say Olaf specifically? Maybe so that it wasn't so obvious as he knew that he was the closest geographically and that they would be sent his way. Being as villainous as he is he could have easily came up with a plan to fake a will. I suppose we'll never truly know
is it possible that they wrote their will, knowing that Olaf was closest geographically, before the schism and just never updated? I cant really remember as its been a while since I read the whole series but weren't all of VFD friends once? So before the schism they wouldn't mind that Olaf would be the first guardian to the children? Therefore after the schism they never updated it and were killed allowing Olaf to get the children and give him a chance at their fortune (whether they are related at all or were just VFD friends back in the day!)
V.F.D. was a united organization until the schism, which, according to TPP, happened early in the adults lifetimes. It's therefore doubtful the Baudelaire parents wrote the will with Olaf in mind. It's more likely the Baudelaire parents thought Mr. Poe would have the sense to know that "close" meant "close to the family" and not "in geographical proximity." Good point that the will didn't say Olaf specifically; that seems to support that the will was written a long time ago.
It's not clear that the will actually mentions closeness at all; the conditions given in TBB (Chapters Two and Thirteen, I think) are that the children should be raised in the most convenient way possible, and that they must be adopted by a relative. "Convenience" is quite easy to misinterpret, though.
I agree. Mr Poe being the rather clueless banker he is, probably misinterpreted the will/parents wishes. I am certain Beatrice and Bertrand would never have intentionally sent their children to live with Count Olaf. As for Olaf's "relation" to the Baudelaires it mentioned he is either a "third cousin four times removed" or a "fourth cousin three times removed." I'm not even going to begin trying to work out what that means, but I guess one could argue that all VFD members seem to be losely related one way of another.
Terry Craig: that was an ace retort tbh, jean
Jan 25, 2020 22:10:11 GMT -5
emiliedenouement: Happy Year of the Rat! It is the setting of ASOUE...
Jan 26, 2020 23:01:48 GMT -5
emiliedenouement: also Book Club starting in Feb. w/ The Great Gatsby! Please join!
Jan 26, 2020 23:02:38 GMT -5
jeanlucio10: 75th ANNIVERSARY OF THE LIBERATION OF GERMAN NAZI CONCENTRATION AND EXTERMINATION CAMP AUSCHWITZ 27 JANUARY 2020.
Jan 27, 2020 21:25:07 GMT -5
jeanlucio10: I would like to read now a short story written by Lemony Snicket about how VFD helped to defeat Nazism. This would be interesting to introduce the subject to children.
Jan 27, 2020 21:27:54 GMT -5
jeanlucio10: "Anne Frank - the Diary of a Young Girl",could be the book club's third book? I haven't read this one either.
Jan 27, 2020 21:35:14 GMT -5
Terry Craig: I think the historical events are interesting enough on their own, and don't need to be taught just to introduce children to Lemony Snicket.
Jan 27, 2020 21:35:21 GMT -5
jeanlucio10: You're right Terry.
Jan 27, 2020 21:36:40 GMT -5
jeanlucio10: This request of mine was a selfish appeal from my heart, disguised as a request on behalf of the children.
Jan 27, 2020 21:37:59 GMT -5
𝓑𝓮𝓪𝓻: i know anne frank was a belieber but i wonder if she was in the VFD too
Jan 27, 2020 21:58:29 GMT -5
jeanlucio10: I just read a 2013 report about your comment 𝓑𝓮𝓪𝓻, so I can understand the meaning. Through this report, I realized that there are people more self-centered than me.
Jan 27, 2020 22:46:00 GMT -5
Hermes (or Herms): If we manage to have Bearies this year, I know who I will nominate for Best Pairing.
Jan 28, 2020 6:20:44 GMT -5
Terry Craig: bearlucio? beanlucio? jear?
Jan 28, 2020 19:32:02 GMT -5