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Post by Dante on Dec 3, 2008 10:34:42 GMT -5
(No, I'm sure Handler wasn't thinking that when he designed it. But I think it's a nice way of restoring consistency.) Good practice. I like the idea. My favoured way of dealing with the Family Tree is to just ignore any inconsistencies and take it as it may well have been intended at the time, but this solution would suffice. It would allow a lot of the same names to be kept while not having to worry about people being related to (or in charge of, through some abstruse V.F.D. hierarchy) people they shouldn't be. Although that's also something of a weakness; it could be a little too easy.
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Post by Hermes on Dec 3, 2008 10:44:37 GMT -5
Thank you! (I guess this idea isn't on Wikipedia, then?)
Regarding Miranda - she is Mrs. Caliban, not Miss or Ms., which is surprising if she is using her maiden name. (Though not impossible: I believe Geraldine Ferraro used 'Mrs' with her maiden name.)
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Post by thedoctororwell on Dec 5, 2008 9:05:11 GMT -5
Oh, yeah. I was wrong about Miranda... Sorry. And the idea of the name tradition is indeed good thinking.
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Post by hieitouyaicedemon on Jan 19, 2009 13:40:30 GMT -5
i think that this is very convuluted and confusing. Ah, but isn't that the nature of the entire series? To keep us guessing?
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Post by Seymour Glass on Apr 12, 2010 18:36:22 GMT -5
It's the Snicket Family Tree. Jacob Snicket goes by E.
I think G, H, and I are Gregor, Hector, and Ike.
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Post by MyKindEditor on Apr 13, 2010 16:14:54 GMT -5
So it goes somewhat like this(?); A) Unknown B) Unkown C) Chas Snicket D)? E) Jacob Snicket F)? G) Gregor H) Hector I) Ike J) Jaques K) Kit L) Lemony M) Miranda Caliban (Not MM because of surname issues, obv.) N) ? O) Olivia? (Not Olaf because Kit and Olaf would be cousins)
I think this is right, I am probably wrong somewhere. N I think was mentioned or I new but I have forgotten. This seems to be the answers previously agreed on?
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Post by Dante on Apr 14, 2010 10:28:44 GMT -5
Hal is sometimes inserted in place of Hector; Hal would be more consistent with Gregor and Ike's age. Miranda isn't usually guessed to be on the family tree; while she and Olivia have the same surname, Caliban, Miranda took that surname upon her marriage to Thursday Caliban.
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Post by Hermes on Apr 14, 2010 12:56:55 GMT -5
O) Olivia? (Not Olaf because Kit and Olaf would be cousins) Well, cousins can marry in lots of places. But perhaps Kit broke up with Olaf because she thought they were too closely related. Hal is sometimes inserted in place of Hector; Hal would be more consistent with Gregor and Ike's age. But it seems fairly clear in TPP that Hal is new to VFD, which would be odd if he were Gregor and Ike's brother. Other possibilities are Humphrey (briefly mentioned in The End) and Hugo (perhaps he dropped out of VFD because of his disability).
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Post by Dante on Apr 14, 2010 15:27:38 GMT -5
Humphrey is a good one, as he was a seafaring man, and probably lived quite some time ago.
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Post by MyKindEditor on Apr 14, 2010 16:04:22 GMT -5
I know, I was only going on what has been previously said and what names fit, I personally I don't think it could be Hal. Sory about the Miranda/ Olivia mistake, I was tired etc.
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Post by Dante on Apr 15, 2010 1:53:20 GMT -5
Don't worry about it. Come to think of it, it might be a different Olivia who had also married into the Caliban family, although that'd be a bit of a stretch.
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Post by Seymour Glass on Apr 17, 2010 19:14:58 GMT -5
H can't be Hal. Hal is Indian.
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Post by Dante on Apr 18, 2010 2:32:17 GMT -5
I think Hal just likes Indian food and has an exaggerated opinion of his own talent for it. I don't think he is literally of Indian origin. And if he was, how would we know that Gregor and Ike weren't?
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Post by moirrey on Apr 30, 2010 23:09:13 GMT -5
I'd like to know if the noose around O's branch means anything or not. Or even if it's a noose at all.
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Post by Dante on May 1, 2010 3:58:17 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure it's a hangman's noose, and I suppose it would be representative of Olaf's presence being associated with death and evil. You can produce a number of other readings, though - it could foreshadow Olaf's death, or even signify that his branch of the tree is a dead end which produces no more children.
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