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Post by B. on Feb 23, 2012 11:36:50 GMT -5
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Post by discosoup on Feb 23, 2012 17:43:17 GMT -5
Well I want to first give my relief that this is about Lemony's childhood. Remember that the first announcements said that it would be only slightly related to ASoUE. I ruled out in my head a story of young Lemony. This is the best announcement.
I speculate that we might learn some things that answer a few timeline issues.
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Post by B. on Feb 24, 2012 3:32:57 GMT -5
Well I want to first give my relief that this is about Lemony's childhood. Remember that the first announcements said that it would be only slightly related to ASoUE. I ruled out in my head a story of young Lemony. This is the best announcement. Yes, it would appear that Handler and the Publishers held a slightly different idea of "slight overlap."
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Post by Dante on Feb 24, 2012 3:36:28 GMT -5
On the other hand, being about young Lemony doesn't guarantee we'll learn too much about things that affect ASoUE. It could be an independent adventure. ...I don't really believe that, though. I think it's not only logical for ASoUE elements and characters to be factored in, but also something Handler will know a significant section of the readership will be interested in seeing. I'm not sure if I'm expecting much in terms of such continuity references in the first book, nor do I think the plot will be built on something that will require ASoUE to understand - but I would expect the number of ASoUE links to accumulate over time.
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Post by B. on Feb 24, 2012 4:26:41 GMT -5
By ASoUE elements and characters you mean the ones involved in VFD, right? Because obviously there will be no Violet, Klaus or Sunny and certainly no unlucky orphans being pursued by an evil count. " Who Could it Be at This Hour? explores Snicket's mysterious past for the first time. Little else has been revealed about the book other than it is set in "a fading town" where Snicket becomes "an apprentice in an organization nobody knows about" and starts asking "a series of questions—wrong questions that should not have been on his mind.” Who Could That Be at This Hour? is Snicket’s account of the first wrong question. Little Brown is using the website LSATWQ.com to promote the upcoming series and has released a teaser cover as well." This quote from a news article sums up pretty much all we know about the plot-line right now. "An Apprentice in an Organization nobody knows about" pretty much confirms that VFD will be in it. "A fading town...." we can assume this is the primary location of the series? We don't know if the VFD neophytes travel that much (although we do know of a climbing expedition in the Mortmain mountains), but I don't think they'll be traveling all that much. And will the headquarters be set in the "Fading town" then? EDIT: This is pretty much just my blind speculation, though.
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Post by Dante on Feb 24, 2012 7:54:26 GMT -5
Obviously V.F.D.'s in it, but I was thinking in terms of returning characters, in addition to plot devices like the sugar bowl and the Great Unknown, or events like the schism. I guess there's a pretty good chance we might learn more about the latter, but I'm making no assumptions about anything else.
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Post by B. on Feb 24, 2012 10:52:21 GMT -5
Oh right. Well, the schism yes, because we know it occurred when Kit was four years old, so Lemony must've been at the most, two. As for the Great Unknown, I think we'll find out about that too, but maybe not in the first book. And the sugar bowl....well to be honest I don't think we'll ever know it's true purpose or what was inside it. I think we'll learn more about it, but not exactly what's inside it. Because if all the mysteries are solved, wheres the fun in speculation?
EDIT: Though of course, they'll be more mysteries revealed.
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Post by discosoup on Feb 24, 2012 13:44:08 GMT -5
I don't think that we need any more answers about the Baudelaire kids. Their story has been told and been told beautifully. I feel that Lemony does need further exposition. I am chuffed about this. Enough to come back to the board! The sugar bowl was what is called in fiction the MacGuffin. MacGuffins are objects sought by protagonists and antagonists which serve to drive the story, but whose nature is usually irrelevant to the plot. Watch The Maltese Falcon to see what I mean. The Great Unknown really needs explanation. The earliest releases did say that we'd learn more "about that question mark" or something to that effect, so I've got faith that we'll get the answers, and probably many more questions, about the most mysterious question of that freaky thing.
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Post by Dante on Feb 24, 2012 14:48:02 GMT -5
More specifically, he mentioned, in reply to a question the interviewer didn't write down, that the new series would "approach that question mark from a different angle." I personally think it needs no explanation whatsoever.
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Post by Christmas Chief on Feb 24, 2012 19:28:06 GMT -5
I'm envisioning an insider's account of life in V.F.D., the origins of plot devices mentioned (if perhaps not all their significance), and various misadventures of a little Snicket lad (well, not quite that little). Though the story focuses on Lemony, I should think our narrator will be omniscient. One possibility is the "holistic" approach, meaning characters and events seemingly unrelated to Lemony will come together at the end of the novel or series proving to be related after all. I would also not be surprised to encounter either a prologue or an epilogue, as part of the liberation in formatting that's been discussed. (As a side note, an image of Lemony shuffling through burnt rubble often comes to mind.)
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Post by soufflé on Feb 24, 2012 23:52:01 GMT -5
I agree with Sherry Ann.
And hopefully this series will provide more information about topics such as the sugar bowl or the Great Unknown. But I don't think Snicket will go into too much detail about things like that, as that would ruin the mystery.
Maybe by the end of this series we'll have an idea, but I doubt we'll be told flat-out about the secrets of VFD.
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Post by B. on Feb 25, 2012 3:01:03 GMT -5
I'm envisioning an insider's account of life in V.F.D., the origins of plot devices mentioned (if perhaps not all their significance), and various misadventures of a little Snicket lad (well, not quite that little). I agree with all said, but I don't think it'll just be "Oh, by the way the sugar bowl contains......"or "The Great Unknown is..." We know that the Great Unknown will be "approached from a different angle." I'm also thinking that we'll learn things about VFD that we didn't know already from ASoUE. I've always felt it was implied in ASoUE that the Baudelaires had only touched on everything VFD did, and that there was still a lot undiscovered. That being said, do you think the narrator will be first or third person (I would list second, but I think we can rule that one out). My money's on the first person, since the series is autobiographical. But then I guess you could argue that ASoUE was told in first person, and how often Snicket mentioned himself and where he was or some past events in his life. Perhaps we should call this the "Snicket person" since his narrating style is truly unique.
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Post by Dante on Feb 25, 2012 3:39:30 GMT -5
I'm pretty certain it'll be told by adult Snicket retrospectively - first person, in other words, but with the usual Snicket flair for lacing the narrative with foreshadowing.
Another point that's come up in my thoughts is the following: "Who could that be at this hour?" is a stock question, a line of dramatic dialogue that has broad coverage before this series. (Google the title in quotes and use Advanced Search to leave out articles that mention Snicket, and you'll see what I mean.) That might suggest that the titles of later books will be other stock melodramatic questions, like "Where are you taking us?" or "What are you going to do with us?" The lengthier the better, of course, as the fact that the title is so long is sort of a joke in itself.
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Post by soufflé on Feb 25, 2012 15:00:11 GMT -5
I think first person is logical; however, Snicket could find a way of telling his own story in third person, as a way of not revealing too much about himself.
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Post by B. on Feb 26, 2012 4:49:37 GMT -5
In short I expect confusion. Although I don't think these are likely titles; I'm expecting his "taking" to be covered in the first book. Also, do we know if he'll be educated according to this? (from TUA):
Or was this only before the schism?
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