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Post by gliquey on Feb 23, 2015 13:30:55 GMT -5
If ?4 does not use that colour scheme, then ?4 is not the odd one out; rather, ?3 would be the odd one out as the only book to recycle a previous colour scheme. That would undermine the purpose of breaking the pattern. I understood the colour scheme flipping thing, but that's a very interesting point about ?3 being the "odd one out" in this case. I definitely think it's best if they go for green. (and I wonder if Hangfire's are the same) This seems especially likely if Armstrong Feint is Hangfire. I can imagine the murder might indeed be a bloodless one -- the Officers Mitchum will undoubtedly make a mess of things, assuming the are present, and if they don't simply accuse the wrong person, they might very well put about the theory that there hasn't been a murder at all, just an accident, which would be easier to believe if it's not a particularly violent murder. Given that this is a series for children*, I don't think the death will be very gory. I agree that it could easily be a bloodless murder. The way the town will respond is going to be interesting... in ASOUE, the approach was deny any problem at all (What? Count Olaf's not here.), and I can certainly see Theodora accusing the wrong person or denying the crime outright. As for the Mitchums, I trust them (and their intentions) a bit more than I would Mr. Poe, but they're still not particularly competent. *Having said that, so was ASOUE and there were plenty of deaths there (almost certainly far more than there will be in ATWQ). I can't think of any particularly disturbing ones, but Uncle Monty's corpse was on display for all three Baudelaires to see in TRR.
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Post by Dante on Feb 23, 2015 15:22:30 GMT -5
The way that ATWQ is taking four books to lead up to a single individual's murder really renders ASoUE weird in hindsight; Olaf leaves a string of corpses in his wake and it doesn't take long before we cease to bat an eyelid at the fact.
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Post by Poe's Coats Host Toast on Feb 23, 2015 22:22:06 GMT -5
I think if anything it just renders ASoUE as a series for a slightly older audience (which I guess in itself is kind of weird, since it came first).
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Post by Dante on Feb 24, 2015 3:57:45 GMT -5
I don't know if I'd go that far; ASoUE over time has a quite open presentation of grief, but at times it treats death very flippantly (in particular the probable off-screen deaths of Foreman Firstein, Ms. Tench, the former V.F.D. chief of police, Babs). I think the difference for ATWQ is mostly in the genre. If you want each book to make a big deal out of a particular crime then you can't dilute the impact of that crime in earlier installments.
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Post by Isadora Is a Door on Feb 24, 2015 8:41:40 GMT -5
Going back to the subject of green, i'd like to see an appearance of the incredibly deadly viper.
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Post by gliquey on Feb 24, 2015 16:49:55 GMT -5
Going back to the subject of green, i'd like to see an appearance of the incredibly deadly viper. How long do snakes normally live? Also, when did Uncle Monty discover Ink? In TRR, he acts like he's only just discovered it (which, of course, doesn't mean snakes of that species weren't around before then) but Kit appeared to be well-acquainted with Ink. But Ink might be an interesting character to have reappear (or appear for the first time, chronologically)...
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Post by Dante on Feb 24, 2015 17:14:13 GMT -5
As I recall it, The End already complicates the timeline of Ink's discovery - it was on the island years prior to TRR, for instance. It also has a faintly suggestive relationship with the Great Unknown - a black serpent swimming through the oceans... With that said, I don't expect it to put in an appearance; I'm not sure what you could do with it.
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hix
Bewildered Beginner
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Post by hix on Feb 25, 2015 0:24:36 GMT -5
anyone expecting for another Chapter Fourteen? it would be the great place for the epilogue.
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Post by Dante on Feb 25, 2015 5:52:10 GMT -5
I don't think it has quite the same impact if it's not at the end of a thirteen-book series of thirteen - for we have to remember that Chapter Fourteen was styled not just as an extra chapter but an extra volume in itself. Still, I wouldn't be entirely surprised; an epilogue would be nice, though strictly speaking the thirteenth chapters in the series so far have already tended to serve that role.
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Post by Isadora Is a Door on Feb 25, 2015 11:07:00 GMT -5
I think not. Chapter fourteen worked well as it was technician a 14th book in its own right. I could only see a similar thing working for ATWQ if we onyl have five chapters.
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Post by Hermes on Feb 25, 2015 11:17:43 GMT -5
An extra chapter would spoil the pattern of having fifty-two chapters (for the weeks of a year, the cards of a regular pack, and the chaperones of VFD).
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Post by Isadora Is a Door on Feb 26, 2015 8:21:58 GMT -5
you could read a chapter a week of ATWQ!
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Post by M David Steel on Feb 27, 2015 8:32:05 GMT -5
i never realised the whole 52 thing. hermes is quite the volunteer.
do you think someone will kill hangfire? or will it be a different kind of course? if its the first one i would call it not a murder but more like defeating the villian he could be the cowardly one who takes someone down with him. so its sucide but of course he doesnt want it to be for nothing
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Post by gliquey on Feb 27, 2015 11:27:27 GMT -5
do you think someone will kill hangfire? or will it be a different kind of course? if its the first one i would call it not a murder but more like defeating the villian he could be the cowardly one who takes someone down with him. so its sucide but of course he doesnt want it to be for nothing I imagine Hangfire will be dead when ?4 ends, but I could be completely wrong. Some have suggested he is a character from ASOUE, which would mean he has to survive, but few viable suggestions for who he could be exist.
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Post by Dante on Feb 27, 2015 14:19:13 GMT -5
I have a suspicion that Hangfire might vanish into the great unknown, and his daughter still searches for him even now.
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