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Post by Kit's tits kick ticks on Oct 10, 2016 13:34:29 GMT -5
(not being 19 year old, from London, or a girl, I can't say that this depiction is 100% accurate, but it seems to be) you do know that you actually are 19?
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Post by Isadora Is a Door on Oct 10, 2016 14:27:44 GMT -5
Wait, yeah, thats true. I genuinely forgot
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Post by Isadora Is a Door on Oct 10, 2016 15:58:33 GMT -5
This new, more earth-focused approach works well in making the show more accessible to new viewers, as does the character of Rose. She's set up as an ordinary 19 year old from London, and I guess she is (not being 19 year old, from London, or a girl, I can't say that this depiction is 100% accurate, but it seems to be) The focus on the companion is also a new thing, however. Sure, in the classic series the companions played a large role, but I don't think that they were ever the focal point that rose is, especially in this series. Were they not at the very beginning? I'd always understood that the first series was about a couple of teachers who meet a mysterious doctor, and the adventures that follow on this, rather than about the doctor himself. Am I right in thinking that the Sonic Screwdriver was written out because it made everything too easy? How did the new series get round that? That's actually a good point about Ian and Barbara. The Sonic Screwdriver (and, in turn, the psychic paper) were brought into the new series by RTD for the opposite reason - Whereas in the classic series the stories were normally 4 x 25 minute episodes, for the new run it was 1 x 45 minute episode, so the Doctor needed things to help him get out of scrapes more often.
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Post by Isadora Is a Door on Oct 10, 2016 16:57:52 GMT -5
The Quiz.
Part 1 - Rose
1. What was the first line spoken in this episode?
2. What is the name of the website Rose finds with information on the Doctor?
3. What is the name of the man who runs the website?
4. Who directed this episode?
5. What was the name of the department store where rose worked?
6. What is the time on Rose's Clock at the start of the episode?
7. On what date did this episode first air?
8. A friend of Jackie's got compensation from the council because the old man at the desk said she looked greek. But what was her name?
9. Who wrote Spearhead from Space, the Episode which first introduced the Autons?
10. What is the licence plate number of the bus that Rose takes to work?
Part 2 - The End of The World
11. Excluding the recap at the start, what is the first line spoken in this episode?
12. Name the songs played on Cassandras 'ipod'
13. Jade, Lute, and Coffa are the representatives of where?
14. On what day of the week does Jackie receive Rose's phone call?
15. The Moxx of Balhoon compares the events on platform one to what?
16. What is the name Cassandra gives to the remnants of the human race?
Part 3 - The Unquiet Dead
17. Who is the writer of this episode?
18. What is the name of the Actor who played Mr Sneed?
19. What was the Doctors intended destination?
20. Which other famous writer is mentioned by Charles Dickens in this episode?
Part 4 - Bonus Questions (You won't loose any points for getting these questions wrong)
a) What was the official viewing figures for Rose? There are up to 5 points available, depending how close your guess is.
b) Which 667er do you think will win the quiz? If you guess correctly, 5 points will be added to your score.
The Deadline for Submitting Answers is October 16th.
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Post by Linda Rhaldeen on Oct 10, 2016 18:35:20 GMT -5
I first watched Rose at age 18, now rewatching it at 27 Rose and Mickey seem so young! Also, I've never really liked the Doctor/Rose romance, mostly because I don't like romance with the Doctor and anyone, but especially after watching this and thinking about how young she is the romance I know is coming is just squicky. As a 27-year-old I can see the power imbalance between someone my age dating a 19-year-old, and the Doctor is hundreds of years old, and just, ew. By all means, be close friends, have a close platonic relationship, but the moment you make it romantic it gets weird because with that age difference there's a power dynamic you just can't get around no matter how mature they are for their age. (Fact: I like to think of a lot of you teenage 667ers who I talk to via Facebook or PM as being like younger brothers and sisters because otherwise I get really self-conscious of the age difference and taking the role of older sibling allows me to use the power dynamics inherent in our different ages in a responsible way)
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Post by Reba on Oct 10, 2016 19:51:05 GMT -5
what's REALLY ew is that billie piper married ugly 35 year old chris evans when she was 18
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Post by Esmé's meme is meh on Oct 11, 2016 9:55:43 GMT -5
what's REALLY ew is that billie piper married ugly 35 year old chris evans when she was 18 What? Chris Evans is not ugly at all. Billie Piper on the other hand... Btw I downloaded the episodes but forgot about this. I'll try to catch up asap.
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Post by Reba on Oct 11, 2016 10:28:10 GMT -5
I said 'ugly' to clearly distinguish from the other Chris Evans, who is a famously handsome superhero actor. although it's interesting that your response is to degrade Billie piper rather than acknowledge the creepy marriage
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Post by Linda Rhaldeen on Oct 14, 2016 20:13:52 GMT -5
About to watch The End of the World, I'll be back with thoughts
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Post by Linda Rhaldeen on Oct 14, 2016 21:35:26 GMT -5
Looking at this from Rose's eyes was a clever idea. She starts off surprised that the Steward is blue, and once all the other aliens show up the camera does a good job of making everything feel overwhelming and even claustrophobic. There's one spot I in particular I like where it shows her staring with her head cocked and then zooms close into two black vulture things with glowing green eyes that we never even see the rest of the episode. She leaves the room looking like she's on the verge of a panic attack and realizing that she made a rash choice by running off with a guy without knowing anything about him. And then her reaction to Cassandra talking about earth and getting things laughably wrong; I don't know if you've ever been in a situation where you're in a group and someone is talking about something and you know more than they do about the subject, but it's hard not to rudely interrupt with corrections, and I could see and feel the frustration of Rose. I love the font that all the writing in this episode has. It's like the design team decided that anything they went with would eventually look dated, so screw modern stuff and let's just have 80s-looking computer screens. Also poor Rafello the plumber is still stuffed in an air duct still. Unless the spiders killed her. Also: "I bet you were the school swot and never got kissed."
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Post by BSam on Oct 15, 2016 0:43:17 GMT -5
unquiet dead
i'd forgotten how early not-gwen shows up in this, third episode and all
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Post by Isadora Is a Door on Oct 15, 2016 2:19:15 GMT -5
guys dont forget the quiz. i will psot review of eps 2 and 3 over the weekend
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Post by Isadora Is a Door on Oct 15, 2016 14:00:16 GMT -5
Mister M's Review : The End of The World
Destroying the earth is a pretty bold move. Sure, there have been stories set after the abandonment of earth before, but never has a story actually shown its destruction. It;s a pretty good idea for an episode. The rich and powerful gather together for a good old party while the world burns. I thought this was science fiction?
The story in this episode isn't really about The end of the world itself. It's basically a whodunnit with aliens. The plethora of aliens dotted over platform one are fun - from blue stewards and plumbers, to trees! The ambition is pretty good, and I can forgive the production team for wanting to show off what they can do with a slightly larger budget than the old show. But, to be honest, most of the aliens are just there and they don't really do much - perhaps the victim of the 40 minute run time? But I suppose that isn't a major flaw.
But the mystery itself, and the culprit, are pretty entertaining. Cassandra, the mageey trampoline herself, is a great creation, worthy of the title of being the first 'new' villain of the series. RTD's take on the changing face of beauty is, umm, original, i guess? But cassandra pretty much steals every scene she's in, and I genuinely believe that a piece of stretched-out skin could be capable of mass murder. So great.
But apart from all the aliens and end-of-the-worlding, the story still has rose at the heart of it, The moment when she phones Jackie is a fun bti of timey-wimey-ness, and the scene with raffalo starts a string of rose-talking-to-female-worker scenarios which is repeated in the next episode. But Rose is very much a fish out of water in this episode - she doesn't really play much of a role in the events of the central plot, and is separated from the doctor for much of the episode. Which is why this episode has such a strong ending. The Revelation that the doctor's home planet is gone is a pivotal turning point in the doctor / rose relationship. In allowing to let Rose in, to reveal to her that he is essentially alone, is a brave move for a man still scarred by recent events, and is a moment that will be more heavily explored next episode.
Overall, I'd give this episode 7/10
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Post by Linda Rhaldeen on Oct 15, 2016 21:10:44 GMT -5
M is here doing this professional level analysis and I'm sitting here like "ooh I like this part"
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Post by Linda Rhaldeen on Oct 15, 2016 22:10:55 GMT -5
LOL the stagehand or whatever he is offers to let Charles Dickens sleep with his wife?!? I had to replay that part, make sure I hadn't misheard.
This does have a Christmas-y feel to it, which is weird considering there's a Christmas special every year (11 so far and about to have a 12th despite only 9 seasons); they probably didn't know there were going to be Christmas specials otherwise they would have saved this story for a later date. And the rift stuff; somehow I missed that the whole rift in Cardiff thing had been introduced this early on.
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