Post by Optimism is my Phil-osophy on Feb 27, 2019 1:47:57 GMT -5
To understand this Thread, it is necessary to read my first and my second threads in the links below.
1 - asoue.proboards.com/thread/35828/lemony-snickets-narration-culturally-different
2 - asoue.proboards.com/thread/35834/lemony-dialogues-events
Now that you know the subject Lemony would never lie, you can understand what Lemony would certainly be able to lie about. In my theory, Lemony would lie about Beatrice's death in order to protect her. Of course you know about the strong feelings Lemony has for Beatrice. In TBL, we find a letter where Lemony promised that he would continue to love Beatrice, even if she married another person (From LS to BB # 5). Finally, that's exactly what happened. Listing the evidence that Beatrice survived the fire at her home and kept herself alive for many years after the major ASOUE events is a very difficult job. Daniel Handler made a real Gordian knot about it. In addition, this theory affects the fans' feelings on a very deep level. In my conversation with Dante, I realized that every piece of evidence that could point to Beatrice's possible survival was completely silenced by various theories. Dante spent much of his precious time explaining each of these theories, and now I am aware of each one of them. And as I have explained, my desire is not to criticize the difficult work of these fans in trying to explain ASOUE by accepting Lemony Snicket as a reliable storyteller. My wish is to explain an alternative theory, created solely by me, in which I take as a premise that Lemony Snicket is not a reliable narrator. Using this premise, I believe I unleashed the Gordian knot without using a sword to cut its rope.
But of course, I'm not God, I'm not Daniel Handler, and I know I can be wrong in many ways. I would like you, reader, to help me improve my theory using this premise. If you identify inconsistencies in my theories, based on my own premises, please leave a comment on the subject. (And if I make mistakes in English, you can talk to me in a private message).
To start, I need to answer a simple question: why do I believe in Kit's death but I do not believe in Beatrice's death? After all, both deaths were reported by Lemony Sincket, and if he is an unreliable narrator, he could be lying about both deaths, or he might be lying about Kit's death and not about Beatrice's death. In fact, if Lemony is an unreliable narrator, he could be lying about how many siblings he has, or about their names. Yes, he could be lying about all this. But he is not lying. We can be sure about who the siblings of Lemony are through the UA books. There is even a Genealogical tree in UA. In the books ATWQ, UA and TBL, the brothers of Lemony have their names confirmed. In TBL, in the letter from LS to BB # 5, Lemony confirms that it is one of three siblings. And the most important: the "13 Shocking Secrets You'll Wish You Never Knew about Lemony Snicket" pamphlet explains: "Secret 2: LEMONY SNICKET IS ONE OF THREE SIBLINGS"; "Secret 3: LEMONY SNICKET'S NIECE IS AN ORPHAN."
So that's why I'm sure Kit is dead. Moreover, as I explained in my previous text, Lemony stated in a personal note found in chapter 1 of the UA that the accounts of Baudelaire siblings would be true. Lemony describes in the narration that the Baudelaire siblings saw Kit dying, and buried her body. Lemony would not lie about Kit's death, because he would not be lying about something the Baudelaire siblings had experienced.
For me, the evidence that Beatrice survived and continued to live for many years is based on the chronology of events.The Strange Interpretation of Jean Lúcio From Brazil has its own chronology.
I will write the chronology of my theory in a simple and brief way here, and then I will explain in more detail the evidence that makes me believe in this chronology in future texts.
1 - Lemony is born. He is captured by VFD while he is a baby.
2 - Shortly thereafter, the great VFD Schism takes place. Shortly after, Lemony is captured again by the 'noble' side of VFD and begins his training.
3 - Lemony completes 11 years, and communicates with Beatrice.
4 - Lemony goes to Stain'd-by-the-Sea at age 12.
5- Lemony returns from Stain'd-by-the-Sea to the City when he is 13 years old.
6 - Upon completing approximately 18 years, Lemony forms, and begins his courtship with Beatrice.
7 - Still about 18 years old, Lemony starts working on The Daily Punctilio.
8 - A few years later, Beatrice presents the play "My Silence Knot".
9 - A few years later, Beatrice presents the play "The Worlds is quiet Here". It happens Olaf's Schism. Then Beatrice sends a letter canceling marriage. Then Lemony is fired from The Daily Punctilio. Then Lemony flees to the outside on the Prospero ship for the first time, disguised as a sailor. Beatrice then marries Bertrand. Many people believe that Lemony is dead, probably because the Daily Punctilio announced Lemony's death for the first time.
10 - Some time later Beatrice and Bertrand suffer shipwreck on the island. A few months later they leave the island. Upon arriving in town, Beatrice receives a telegram from Lemony. Beatrice discovers that Lemony was alive.
11 - Shortly after Violet is born. Almost two years later, Klaus is born. About 10 years later, Sunny is born.
12 - About 2 years later, the death of Count Olaf's father or parents occurs.
13 - About a year later, the fire takes place in Beatrice's house. Bertrand dies. It starts the main story of ASOUE.
14 - About a year later Kit and Olaf die.
15 - About a year later, the Baudelaire siblings leave the island.
16 - A few years later Lemony publishes books 1, 2 and 3 of ASOUE.
17 - A Miss K visited Prufrock Pre, and presented to the students one of the ASOUE books that had already been published. Some time later, Lemony's enemies began to search for the survivors of Uncle Monty's collection. One of these enemies finds information about the reptiles and amphibians lost in a copy of the TRR book, which had already been published in Lemony's universe. This enemy of Lemony finds this copy in the Prufrock Pre library, which is still in full operation. Lemony goes to the Prufrock Pre library and receives information about the enemy looking for Uncle Monty's collection. Lemony writes a sebald code letter to R, warning that his enemies were searching for the reptiles, and that he will go to the Masked Ball, even though it is dangerous.
18- Shortly thereafter, the Masked Ball takes place. This party happened 15 years after Olaf's death. Lemony was disguised as a bullfighter. Lemony met Beatrice, who had been alive all this time. Lemony passes the following information to Beatrice: "Count Olaf is dead!" Lemony caught by police
while he was dressed as a bullfighter.
19 - Lemony then escapes the police and becomes a fugitive. Again The Daily Punctilio states that Lemony is dead. This time Daily Punctilio claims that Lemony was the author of ASOUE and that the books of ASOUe would stop being published because of the author's death. Lemony had not died, but Lemony again fled abroad on the Prospero ship. The Great Publishing Hiatus began in Lemony's universe. This great hiatus lasted for many years, and occurred between the publications in Book 3 and 4 of ASOUE. In that interval of years, many people believed again that Lemony had died.
20 - After that Prufrock Pre is closed.
21 - Lemony returned from abroad many years later, and continued to travel ASOUE. When sending the TMM manuscript to its editor, Lemony sends a message to R in a piece of bubblegum.
22 - Then Lemony continued writing ASOUE. In TAA Lemony wrote about the Masked Ball as having happened in the past, because from his point of view when writing TAA it really was in the past many years before. Just as Lemony said Prufrock Pre was closed many years ago, because from his point of view when writing TAA, the school was closed for years. After that, Lemony sent messages to Beatrice in books 9 and 10.
23 - In writing Book 12, Lemony encoured the Sugar Bowl which contained the evidence to acquit him of the charge of fire.
24 - There was another hiatus of a few years between the publications of Book 12 and 13 in Lemony's universe.
Thanks again for reading ... And I would be very grateful for comments. Until the next text.
