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Post by Efogoto on Feb 2, 2004 20:50:26 GMT -5
I have no idea whether any of them will die, but there is definitely a precedent to allow that any or all of them could die. On the other hand, Wesley Crusher survived years of the most dire hopes of Star Trek fans ...
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Post by Jacques the Environmentalist on Feb 2, 2004 21:08:02 GMT -5
Due to the quote u gave me in another thread I think D+I+H+B will bite it.
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Post by Efogoto on Feb 2, 2004 21:52:11 GMT -5
That's the entertainment with this series. One good quote will make you certain something has happened or will happen, then some other quote shoots it down. I think if Daniel pays attention to this site, it's only to figure out what we think we know so he can contrdict it all in the next book.
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Post by Charles Vane on Feb 2, 2004 23:16:53 GMT -5
I like Wesley. He's slighty cute.
Um, anyway I don't really think any of them will die but I was thinking about this the other day. I could think of lots of movies and shows where adults die, wether they are extras or main characters for pointless stupid reasons, but I can't think any movies where a child dies pointlessly and few where a child dies at all. well Simon Birch was the ony one I came up with. Children never get murdered. it upsets people to much.
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Post by Celinra on Feb 3, 2004 11:44:07 GMT -5
I'm not sure where I stand on this topic. However, I agree that it is unlikely, what with censors the way they are. This is a country, after all, where cartoon children aren't allowed to cry because it's too upsetting for the audience. Also, in his warnings, he doesn't warn specifically what will happen. He says, "don't read this if you like cheerful things," not "don't read this if you don't want to read about a child dying." Those warnings are not sufficient to turn away the people who wouldn't want to read that. Also, people are stupid. If a child died, and a child read it, and then their parents found out, the parents would likely have a spaz, order the books off the shelves, etc. People tend to do that, not pay attention to what their child reads, then blame the company if the child reads something they don't want them to. Hence, the company would likely try to prevent this from happening in the first place.
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Post by Amphagorey on Feb 3, 2004 11:47:03 GMT -5
Thats true. I don't think one of thm will die, but I think someone close to them will die. And it's not like their kids, Klaus and Violet are teenagers. And I doubt he would kill Sunny.
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Post by Efogoto on Feb 3, 2004 13:14:59 GMT -5
For child death handled "nicely" we have The Sixth Sense where, due to the nature of Haley Joel Osment's character, all the dead children died previous to our meeting them ... though the video of mom poisoning the little girl was pretty nasty.
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Post by Luigi on Feb 3, 2004 15:20:56 GMT -5
J: 6S was a horror movie. I'm not sure where I stand on this topic. However, I agree that it is unlikely, what with censors the way they are. This is a country, after all, where cartoon children aren't allowed to cry because it's too upsetting for the audience. Also, in his warnings, he doesn't warn specifically what will happen. He says, "don't read this if you like cheerful things," not "don't read this if you don't want to read about a child dying." Those warnings are not sufficient to turn away the people who wouldn't want to read that. Also, people are stupid. If a child died, and a child read it, and then their parents found out, the parents would likely have a spaz, order the books off the shelves, etc. People tend to do that, not pay attention to what their child reads, then blame the company if the child reads something they don't want them to. Hence, the company would likely try to prevent this from happening in the first place. Captiosus: Celina, I could lick you right now. *wags tail* J: Like, the parents might think he's being cute with the "don't read this book, it's sad". They think, "Oh, how funny. It's a children's book, though." And they read the death of the parent,s they read the death of Monty, but when a child dies--a poor, sweet innocent, fragile child, you better beware.
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Post by Efogoto on Feb 3, 2004 15:52:19 GMT -5
I think that the problem wouldn't be in killing off one of the kiddies, but in how he did it. If it's a gruesome scene, of course people would be upset. If he handled it like he did with Madame Lulu and the bald henchman, he'd get away with it.
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Post by Jacques the Environmentalist on Feb 3, 2004 16:57:15 GMT -5
What better way to kill off someone close to the Bauds, without worrying about lawsuits, than the asoue classic, fire!
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Post by Luigi on Feb 3, 2004 17:05:43 GMT -5
It's child death no matter how you slice it and people will get upset.
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Post by Jacques the Environmentalist on Feb 3, 2004 17:12:22 GMT -5
I understand that. But that doesn't mean Handler will deliberately alter his story to fit the taste of our wimpy society. Yes people might be upset, yes there might be some outcries, but heck there have already been outcries against the series and it has been banned in some libraries but in an interview Handler said "Yes, I'll always have that, they can't take that away from me" Leading me to believe that he doesn't really mind if some people speak out against his books.
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Post by Luigi on Feb 3, 2004 17:15:47 GMT -5
I understand that, Jacques. But see, look at this scenerio:
DH: I'm killing off Sunny! Censor: Sorry, Dan, but I can't let you do that--baby killing? Nuh uh. DH: Please? Censor: No. DH: Please? Censor: No. DH: Please? Censor: No. DH: Please? Censor: NO! IT WILL NOT GET A GOOD REACTION AT ALL AND IT WILL CAUSE PROBLEMS!
The only way he could "kill" off kids is to say "...they were trapped in the burning building and they were never seen since...who knows if they survived"
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Post by I Was Marooned on Feb 3, 2004 18:29:29 GMT -5
This is more off-topic, but the reason that everyone thinks that DH is gonna kill off a Baud is because in LSUA it says for his Autobiography titles, "Lemony Snicket: The story of 3 Siblings, At Least 1 of Whom is Dead." Now everyone assumes that he means the Bauds. But the Snicket siblings are three, at least Jaques is dead.
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Post by Jacques the Environmentalist on Feb 3, 2004 20:43:22 GMT -5
This is more off-topic, but the reason that everyone thinks that DH is gonna kill off a Baud is because in LSUA it says for his Autobiography titles, "Lemony Snicket: The story of 3 Siblings, At Least 1 of Whom is Dead." Now everyone assumes that he means the Bauds. But the Snicket siblings are three, at least Jaques is dead. Yes, the story was going to be about the snickets not the bauds and that means the story of the 3 snicket children, at least one of whom (Jacques for sure, possibly Lemony by the time he catches up with everything) is dead.
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