PrettyPenny
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Post by PrettyPenny on May 30, 2005 3:29:53 GMT -5
I dont know whether this has been asked before, sorry if it has but....
Why don't the Quagmires still live in the orphan shack ?
ok I have only read to the ersatz elevator so sorry if it says why in a later book
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Post by Ennui on May 30, 2005 3:40:34 GMT -5
Quite a good question.
Sadly, the most likely answer is rather boring: now the Baudelaires have moved in, there isn't room.
However, that raises the question of why Nero would agree to take in superfluous orphans anyway. So I prefer to imagine that VFD has recently recruited the Quagmires, and a VFDer posing as a guardian has signed the form permitting them to sleep in the dormitory.
Esme could also conceivably have signed it; it's likely Nero isn't consistent about recognising the differences between a guardian and a banker...
EDIT: It transpires that Esme is in charge of the Quagmire estate in the Slippery Slope-like Mr Poe is in charge of the Baudelaire estate. Hence my third theory.
ANOTHER EDIT: This should be in "The Situation Worsens".
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Post by lauren on May 30, 2005 4:08:48 GMT -5
That's a very interesting theory...i like it  ...hmmm it makes me ponder Esme's motives when she signed it??? Excuse me while i entertain this notion |
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Post by A. the Returned on May 30, 2005 4:38:39 GMT -5
Quite a good question. Esme could also conceivably have signed it; it's likely Nero isn't consistent about recognising the differences between a guardian and a banker... Oh, but he does know the difference. "He is neither your parent nor your guardian. He is a banker who is in charge of your affairs." TAA Pg 27. But it certainly does sound as though they had a signed permission slip. "Duncan and I had to live there for three semesters because we needed a parent or guardian to sign our permission slip, and we didn't have one." |
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Post by Ennui on May 30, 2005 4:44:00 GMT -5
I was referring to that. What I meant was, he's probably quite happy to put that aside when it suits him. But as it happens, I prefer my second theory to my third.
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Post by volunteer23 on May 30, 2005 22:37:14 GMT -5
Did I miss something? This person just asked why the Quagmires no longer lived in the Orphan Shack and all you people are giving this elaborate reasons for something I have no idea about!
Isn't it obvious that they don't live in the Orphan Shack is because Count Olaf whisked them away?
Please pm me explaining this because I'm really really confused.
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Post by Ennui on May 30, 2005 23:25:08 GMT -5
I think she means "why don't they live in the shack as well as the Baudelaires". The answer must be-
1. No room
2. Someone signed their form acting as a guardian
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Post by Forlorn on May 31, 2005 3:56:37 GMT -5
Wowbagger the Immortal, I don't really think your first theory about no room would be right. The second one might. If Nero let the Baudelaires stay in the orphan shack that's infested with crabs and has moss growing, I don't think he would care if there wasn't that much room for all the orphans.
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Antenora
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Post by Antenora on May 31, 2005 5:30:25 GMT -5
I like the theory that a VFDer signed a form for the Quagmires, although I think they've been in VFD for quite some time. Hence the commonplace notebooks, which seem to contain material dating back for a while.
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Post by SnicketFires on May 31, 2005 19:12:34 GMT -5
Moved. LittleSunny, please read the discription of each board before making a thread to make sure it is located in the correct place. If you do this again, I shall have to warn you.
...I know there was a thread like this a while ago, but I can't find in now. Continue.
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Post by Dante on Jun 5, 2005 3:01:33 GMT -5
Esmé isn't a banker; she's a financial adviser (the city's sixth most important, in fact). She's also very charismatic. Nero liked Olaf/Genghis very much - he'd probably get along fine with Esmé, hence permitting himself to consider her a guardian.
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Post by PJ on Jun 5, 2005 3:05:16 GMT -5
Esmé isn't a banker; she's a financial adviser (the city's sixth most important, in fact). She's also very charismatic. Nero liked Olaf/Genghis very much - he'd probably get along fine with Esmé, hence permitting himself to consider her a guardian. But why would Esmé bother signing the form? Hardly out of the goodness of her heart. Perhaps she wanted something from the Quagmires, and signed the form in return. Or perhaps it suited her to have the Quagmires out of the shack, for some unknown reason. |
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Post by Antenora on Jun 5, 2005 4:33:54 GMT -5
Maybe she thought that signing the form would help her get the sapphires. However, it's not likely that the Quagmires would give it to her directly, but signing the parent/guardian form may have been part of a more complex plan.
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Post by hookhandedgirl on Jun 8, 2005 9:24:25 GMT -5
the baudelaire had to move in and they couldn't fit 4 teenage orphans and a baby in it.
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Post by whisperwolf on Jun 8, 2005 18:43:33 GMT -5
"Duncan and I had to live there for three semesters because we needed a parent or guardian to sign our permission slip, and we didn't have one." TAA p 48 From this comment, and the fact that the Quagmires had to go fishing thru their notebooks for information on the shack (ie, the crabs were afraid of loud noises), I surmise that the Quagmires have not lived in the shack for quite some time at the point that the Baudelaires come on the scene. So I doubt that they were removed just because the Baudelaires have need of the shack. There is one option that wasn't mentioned... that the Quagmires have a new guardian at this point in the story. It is possible... though not probable. Mollie |
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...hmmm it makes me ponder Esme's motives when she signed it??? Excuse me while i entertain this notion
