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Post by lemonysinlaw on Oct 22, 2003 6:17:15 GMT -5
I'm really weird; I'm Jewish and Christian (not Catholic), but then I don't believe in God (and I don't want any debates, I've gotten in enough already) and I'm Buddhist.
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Post by Tay Sachs on Oct 22, 2003 9:47:44 GMT -5
The knowledge they are talking about was the knowledge of the difference between good and evil. And that's part of the reason I don't read the bible, it's so suseptible to tweaking in translation by every corrupt bishop, pope or scholar over the last umpteen years that I don't trust it.
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Post by pennyroyal on Oct 22, 2003 17:27:32 GMT -5
I'm really weird; I'm Jewish and Christian (not Catholic), but then I don't believe in God (and I don't want any debates, I've gotten in enough already) and I'm Buddhist. So do you not believe in anything beyond this life? then how can you be buddhist?!
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Post by LemonLady on Oct 22, 2003 19:06:58 GMT -5
what exactly do Mormons believe? I know there is always literature to assist people in understanding the Bible.. but it seems that Mormons regard some of their literature to be God's word. We believe a man named Joseph Smith, who was our first prophet after the dark ages, was out praying about which religion he should join. And then God and Christ came to him and gave him the gold plates, which is now what we call the book of mormon, sort if like a missing part of the bible. And then Joseph Smith translated the plates and re-orgenized the Church of Jesus Christ. I dont really now what more to tell you. Sadly, I dont know that much about other religions. But I guess some key things would be: God, Christ, and the Holy Ghost are all seperate beings, no premaritle sex, no swearing, no beer/coffee/alchohol/tea/smoking, wearing aproppriate clothes, get married in the temple, baptism by imersion when we're 8, stuff like that. We have the sacrement with the bread and water every sunday, say prayers, sing hymns, learn about the bible aswell as the book of mormon. Also. we are the only (if not in the minority) of the churches in the world that dont think you have to be a member of our church to be saved. Its all based on how you are as a person, keeping the commandments and whatnot. Sorry I couldnt go way into detail, but I dont really now what you want to know. Ask questions if youw ant. Also, if two guys in suits with name tags ever come to your door, they're LDS missionaries ;D
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Post by BSam on Oct 22, 2003 19:47:41 GMT -5
hmm... one of my friends is a mormon, well, in a mormon family... he is in his 20's and is going out, and living with, a male drama teacher in his 50's...
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Post by pennyroyal on Oct 22, 2003 20:04:45 GMT -5
We believe a man named Joseph Smith, who was our first prophet after the dark ages, was out praying about which religion he should join. And then God and Christ came to him and gave him the gold plates, which is now what we call the book of mormon, sort if like a missing part of the bible. And then Joseph Smith translated the plates and re-orgenized the Church of Jesus Christ. I dont really now what more to tell you. Sadly, I dont know that much about other religions. But I guess some key things would be: God, Christ, and the Holy Ghost are all seperate beings, no premaritle sex, no swearing, no beer/coffee/alchohol/tea/smoking, wearing aproppriate clothes, get married in the temple, baptism by imersion when we're 8, stuff like that. We have the sacrement with the bread and water every sunday, say prayers, sing hymns, learn about the bible aswell as the book of mormon. Also. we are the only (if not in the minority) of the churches in the world that dont think you have to be a member of our church to be saved. Its all based on how you are as a person, keeping the commandments and whatnot. Sorry I couldnt go way into detail, but I dont really now what you want to know. Ask questions if youw ant. Also, if two guys in suits with name tags ever come to your door, they're LDS missionaries ;D no coffee or tea? that's weird... hehe, i don't know about LDS, but ive known a few LSD missionaries...
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Post by LemonLady on Oct 23, 2003 17:18:43 GMT -5
well, those are considered "hot drinks". Basically, anything with caffiene in it. Its addictive and the leaders of our church dont want to put us in a position where were a "slave" to something. I know all that stuff seems like rules, but there really not. There just guide lines. We dont have to follow them. Ive done some bad stuff in my life, let me tell you. But we dont do any of those things to keep us save from wordly things. Does that make sense? I dont want you guys to think were like all nuns or anything.
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Post by LemonLady on Oct 23, 2003 17:21:34 GMT -5
hmm... one of my friends is a mormon, well, in a mormon family... he is in his 20's and is going out, and living with, a male drama teacher in his 50's... Going out? As in dating? Like gay? Maybe he's inactive. I dont know any gay people so..... I think they would be aloud to come, but they couldnt be baptized into out church.
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Post by Inconnu on Oct 23, 2003 23:16:12 GMT -5
i've gone through this whole thread and it looks like none of you have really given adequate explanations to anything you posted. this discussion is highly superficial, how old are you people anyway? this question isn't meant to imply that any of you are immature, but some of the things you people have said are inaccurate.
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Post by Tay Sachs on Oct 24, 2003 1:50:33 GMT -5
Yeah, I'm superficial as well, especially when posting in a place like this. Why would I bother to explain in detailed splendor every nuance of what I think and feel? And I'm 19.
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Post by Tay Sachs on Oct 24, 2003 4:40:58 GMT -5
me, mock the swan? Never. No, really, I wasn't. I'm accurate, just not terribly detailed. Exessive typing tires me out.
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Post by LemonLady on Oct 24, 2003 22:43:06 GMT -5
Well, these are all opinions after all. Most of them are bound to be inacurate to some people. Especially with religion. And I happen to be 16. And besides, if you think that, why did you even post that were immature? I mean, what purpose does it serve?
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Post by pixie ears on Oct 27, 2003 21:06:10 GMT -5
I'm Catholic...well, my family is Catholic, but I'm not sure I believe in all their beliefs.
I believe in magic, and in the powers of the earth, and trees and spirits of them and such, like paegans do. I also believe a lot of the wiccan things I've heard and read. I don't know what religion I am, really. Techinically, I'm Catholic, but as far as what I believe in, who knows?
Yes, swans, I believe that the Gods of all religions are basically the same. I believe that all religions are true to the people who believe in them. I believe that if you're Muslim and you believe in their God, you won't go to Hell or anything, you'll go to whatever they believe is the "Heaven". I don't think that everyone who does not believe in what I believe in should either change, or be burned in a lake of fire, as one of my friends put it. I believe that there is truth to all religion and that it all pretty much begins at the same place. But, I also believe that the Bible was not written by God, but by men. Yes, men inspired by God, but men nonetheless. Men, even inspired by God, may change little things to fit how they think it should be done and believed, and I believe that more likely than not, that is what happened. Not to everything, but definately to some.
Have any of you read the trilogy, His Dark Materials by Philip Pullman? Great series, everyone that has ever lived to the age of which to read, should read those books. In those books, it turns out that in the Garden of Eden, when Adam and Eve ate the apple, they suddenly became aware and embarrassed that they were naked. According to those books, that is when knowledge came, that is when mankind became aware of themselves and their surroundings and what-not. Of course, I cannot describe it even close to a fourth of half as well as Philip Pullman described it, but I guess you'll just have to read them yourselves, and feel the greatness for yourselves...Maybe I'm being a bit to...erm...dramatic, considering that this is just a book, but when I fell this strongly about something, anything, I will be dramatic, to an extent.
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Post by Cakesniffer on Oct 28, 2003 22:02:57 GMT -5
I'm methadist. This is an easy religion you don't have to go to church constantly to still be a good christian. But really there is only one thing about methadisim that I don't agree with, that being you have to be baptised to go to heaven. That means that still born babys go to hell. I think that to go to heaven you have to have a good heart. (not necessarily phisically since that's sometimes why still borns are born still born...) but that they wer good innocent people.
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Post by pennyroyal on Oct 28, 2003 22:15:47 GMT -5
are you sure methodists believe that? ive never heard that... babies dont go to hell, if you are under the point of accountability, you go to heaven.
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