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Post by Dante on Feb 28, 2009 15:17:34 GMT -5
One idea I had of overcoming this was cutting Olaf out of TEE: would the plot still work? Off the top of my head, it'd probably work better. TEE's a mess. Having Olaf not turn up would be more of a twist, but on the other hand, we'd be deprived of Gunther, and also of a fair bit of narrative tension. The "book" would certainly be shorter, which would help to get more books per film.
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Post by cwm on Mar 1, 2009 2:21:55 GMT -5
I suppose the Baudelaires could simply determine that Olaf must be hiding out of sight and resolve to find him to find the Quagmires, as they do indeed do at the end of TEE.
They'd also need to possibly find an alternative method of getting out of the trunk in TCC.
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Post by Mijahu on Mar 1, 2009 17:19:39 GMT -5
I think they could almost remove Olaf completely, but it is, of course, important that Esme and Olaf get together.
EDIT: I think they could do without Gunther being anywhere near 667 Dark Avenue, but he should still be the auctioneer.
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Post by Dante on Mar 2, 2009 11:48:51 GMT -5
As in, he just pops up for the denouement, for his presence both serves to reinforce how serious the situation is and also facilitates the Baudelaires' exposure of Esmé.
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Post by -Pepsi. on Apr 27, 2009 3:21:50 GMT -5
I'd prefer if Gunther were in it, I thought it was one of the better disguises.. I think the problems with the first movie is they didn't follow the books enough (as with many movies) I also think the 2nd movie perhaps, shouldn't include The Ersatz Elevator. I mean if they included every single part of the Miserable Mill and the Austere Academy it might be long enough. Because I see the end of The Vile Village being a great ending to a movie, and if there were to be a 3rd movie it could be the Ersatz Elevator, and Vile Village.
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Post by hapuka on Jul 23, 2009 8:50:35 GMT -5
I think trying to make 3 - 4 movies out of 13 books is a silly idea because the books keep getting longer and more complex. Why did they have to fuse the first 3 books together anyway? Wouldn't they have been better off to do just the "The Bad Beginning" in 2d animation in a style similar to Brett Helquists illustrations? Not only would of that eliminated the problems of child actors growing up and Jim Carrey not doing sequels but it probably would of cost less to make. I don't understand. Surely that would of been an option for them that they would of thought of. I mean Dream works makes some pretty awesome 3D and 2D animations (Prince of Egypt) they could of even gone with Disney. We could of been up to watching the 4th book or the 5th book by now on the big screen.
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Post by Dante on Jan 16, 2010 17:27:36 GMT -5
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Post by looneylad on Jan 17, 2010 13:02:06 GMT -5
I don't really want a sequel. They should have made it two years ago if they were going to do it at all. All three of the Baudelaire's actors are too old now. And I thought Carrey's performance as Olaf was a bit too comedic.
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Post by thedoctororwell on Jan 17, 2010 16:18:11 GMT -5
If the franchise were to have more movies, here's how I would design the second one.
The Baudelaires are adopted by Esmé and Jérôme ; meanwhile they attend Prufrock Prep in their schooldays, even though they go home at 667's once classes are over. Here they befriend Isadora and Duncan ; learning their own stories they begin to see the pieces fit together and tell them their parents were in the same organisation, and that Olaf burned their house down. The five orphans begin an investigation, and all clues seem to be leading to one man : Jacques, the sole known survivor of the group, "VFD." It will however turn up that Esmé and Olaf planned the Quagmire/Baudelaire encounter as a mean of retrieving important information through them. Once they got it they kidnap the Quagmires but the Baudelaires escape their clutches. The third act of the movie is basically TVV. In a desperate move, the siblings end up in the town of VFD, find Jacques, save their friends and learn distressing secrets... But end up being framed for Jacques' murder. The movie end on the TVV cliffhanger. A sub-plot in the film include various interrumptions by Lemony about details of the "mythology" ; only near the end do we learn that Jacques was, in fact, his brother.
The advantage of this is that after that, it's rather easy to follow the other books' plot more thoroughly, and it slowly unravels the mysteries of VFD.
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Post by Christmas Chief on Jan 17, 2010 20:23:53 GMT -5
I like that idea. That is, it'd be nice if they did the movie by each individual book, but I can understand it being condensed for theatrical purposes, and them being adopted by the Squalor's and going to Prufrock Prep at the same time as incorporating the events in TVV seems a reasonable and manageable solution.
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Post by Dante on Jan 18, 2010 10:15:51 GMT -5
They already tried conflating three books for the first film, and while it could've gone better, I think it was a good idea. I like your sequence of events, thedoctororwell; everything fits together logically and excludes some of the repetition that's less excusable outside of a book series. It wouldn't really do to have the Quagmires kidnapped three times in one movie.
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Post by blakegriplingph on Jan 18, 2010 18:27:40 GMT -5
It had to be as streamlined as possible for theatrical purposes and to rid of some unnecessary stuff, but still you'll have to keep the charm and essence of the books rather than just butchering it.
I don't want the next ASoUE film to suck like Hitman or those Uwe Boll movies.
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Post by looneylad on Jan 19, 2010 19:50:36 GMT -5
I think Joss Whedon should direct the next movie. Either him or Tim Burton... actually, Tim would probably be a better fit.
Whatever, Joss Whedon is the sexiest creator/director alive, and I still want him to make it.
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Post by Isadora on Feb 23, 2010 7:27:22 GMT -5
I don't think they should use TMM in the sequel (if there is one), I personally think it was the most pointless book in the series.
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Post by Dante on Feb 23, 2010 9:02:53 GMT -5
TMM occupies a pretty uneasy place in the series. It's right before the series starts to get much more complex in TAA, which introduces two continuous plotlines, and it comes right after a pretty decent trilogy of fairly formulaic fare. TMM's good, but I think for a lot of people it just comes across as being fairly tangential, since Sir and Charles don't even seem to be related to the Baudelaires.
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