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Post by Dante on Jul 6, 2005 2:30:34 GMT -5
For reference, the only mention of a B was as a neophyte.
M: ...Tomorrow morning at nine A.M. sharp will be the monthly examination for neophytes R, L, K, B, J, E, and G, so our mapmaking session will be moved from the examination hall to the sculpture garden...
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Post by Sixteen on Jul 7, 2005 9:44:01 GMT -5
It's possible that Beatrice is a neophyte, aswell as the Snicket siblings.
TUA, Pg. 96: "Under normal circumstances,new volunteers like ourselves would not receive disguise training until our years of apprenticeship were finished..." -Letter from Jacques to Lemony
So, Beatrice may have been that neophyte considering she is about the same age as Lemony and they were probably recruited at the same time.
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Post by Sugary Snicket on Jul 8, 2005 10:47:26 GMT -5
I don't think there's anything written by Beatrice in the autobiography. She remains mysterious and distant, which is Snicket's intention. I'd like to see some portion of the 200-page book she wrote to explain to Lemony why she couldn't marry him. I agree with you 110%. I think Lemony is waiting until the end of the series, and is THEN maybe telling us. Or, maybe not.... I also wish to see a portion of the 200-page book aforementioned.
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Post by Shelly on Jul 11, 2005 22:32:49 GMT -5
I don't think there's anything written by Beatrice in the autobiography. She remains mysterious and distant, which is Snicket's intention. I'd like to see some portion of the 200-page book she wrote to explain to Lemony why she couldn't marry him. I agree with you 110%. I think Lemony is waiting until the end of the series, and is THEN maybe telling us. Or, maybe not.... I also wish to see a portion of the 200-page book aforementioned. That seems. . . to be likely.
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Post by Page Turner on Jul 16, 2005 20:29:12 GMT -5
Hmm...
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Post by Shelly on Jul 17, 2005 21:52:15 GMT -5
It's possible that Beatrice is a neophyte, aswell as the Snicket siblings. TUA, Pg. 96: "Under normal circumstances,new volunteers like ourselves would not receive disguise training until our years of apprenticeship were finished..."-Letter from Jacques to Lemony So, Beatrice may have been that neophyte considering she is about the same age as Lemony and they were probably recruited at the same time. Yeah, I never thought of that possibility . . .
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Post by s on Jul 28, 2005 17:42:11 GMT -5
On page 104 of the Unauthorized Autobiography:
On page 105, we have the pictures A and C mentioned on page 104. Could the volunteer (B) be Beatrice? That's what I always assumed, and if that's the case, then we have a clear picture of her at the top of page 105.
Edit: And this picture of volunteer B is most definitely a picture of a grown woman, not a neophyte.
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Post by Shelly on Jul 28, 2005 22:02:53 GMT -5
Yes, it is a grown woman
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Post by s on Aug 1, 2005 17:03:15 GMT -5
But is it Beatrice?
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Post by Antenora on Aug 1, 2005 17:08:11 GMT -5
What confuses me about that sequence of photos is that in the last one, "B" appears to have disguised herself as the pickup truck, or hidden inside it.
I'm not sure about whether or not she's Beatrice. We don't really know what Beatrice looked like, except that she was quite lovely. I don't really have a mental image of her, or at least not a clear one.
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Post by Dante on Aug 2, 2005 2:02:16 GMT -5
There are at least two pictures in the U.A. which could be Beatrice (not including the one where she's disguised as a pickup truck). The one you mentioned, and the one on the front of the chapter containing Lemony's review of One Last Warning to Those Who Stand in My Way. There's also a blurry picture of a woman near the end which could be Beatrice (I think - it's been a while since I read the U.A.), and the burnt photograph right before the index.
Considering that V.F.D. training probably takes several years, neophytes would be pretty old by the time they'd finished their training - and that's not taking into account the many years that have passed since the schism. And then one has to take into account the way the U.A. is riddled with chronological inconsistencies.
Frankly, I don't think it matters if these pictures are of Beatrice or not. They don't tell us who she is, do they?
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Post by Antenora on Aug 2, 2005 5:46:37 GMT -5
On page 205, there's a blurry photo that appears to show a man and a woman. Is that the one you meant?
It's hard to say who those blurry and vague photos toward the end are intended to be.
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Post by Dante on Aug 2, 2005 5:50:51 GMT -5
Yes, the one on page 205 (although it looks more to me like a woman and a little boy).
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Post by Antenora on Aug 2, 2005 5:54:38 GMT -5
When I first saw that photograph, I thought it was a very tall man and a shorter woman. But the person on the left looks more like a boy sitting on the wall.
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Post by Sixteen on Aug 2, 2005 9:53:05 GMT -5
I always thought that photo to be of Snicket and his mother. On one of the other pages (I don't have my UA with me) there is what looks like a man fishing, and I presumed that was his father. But I have absolutely 0% proof on these points other than the title of that chapter.
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