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Post by Dante on Oct 23, 2005 6:52:56 GMT -5
That was the old theory which rivalled the "family tree" theory. Again, though, it doesn't make too much sense, as Dewey, Ernest and Frank are the same age as two of the three Snicket siblings, and are almost certainly younger than Olaf, Gregor Anwhistle and Isaac Anwhistle. Make it a recruitment tree, it still doesn't really work. I just think it's messed-up and we'll never understand it.
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Post by Antenora on Oct 23, 2005 6:55:36 GMT -5
I got the impression that Frank, Ernest, and Dewey were younger than the Snicket siblings, and certainly younger than Olaf. Having them recruit those people doesn't make sense, then. So I think the family tree's just a nice way of arranging VFDers, with no particular meaning.
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Post by lauren on Oct 23, 2005 7:11:57 GMT -5
That was the old theory which rivalled the "family tree" theory. Again, though, it doesn't make too much sense, as Dewey, Ernest and Frank are the same age as two of the three Snicket siblings, and are almost certainly younger than Olaf, Gregor Anwhistle and Isaac Anwhistle. Make it a recruitment tree, it still doesn't really work. I just think it's messed-up and we'll never understand it. Who says you have to be older than someone to train them
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Post by Antenora on Oct 23, 2005 7:13:55 GMT -5
Good point, but you certainly have to be older than someone to recruit them, as volunteers are usually taken when they're quite young.
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Post by jman on Oct 24, 2005 16:52:30 GMT -5
True enough.
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Post by A. the Returned on Oct 28, 2005 20:51:32 GMT -5
Perhaps the branches indicate which side of the schism each is on. F or most likely Frank connects on to the O branch which is supsected as Olaf. They are both on the bad side of the schism. E or Ernest we are told is on the good side of the schism and is connected to the Snickets. We are never really told what side of the schism Dewey is on though, perhaps he is caught in between in which case G, H and I might also be. Or perhaps Dewey and the G, H and I branch are the on the good side and Ernest and the Snickets are somewhere in between. Also I just noticed something that I hadn't before. Down the bottom Where it talks about A, B and C on the other page there is a V. and it says volunteer. Why is there no V on the tree yet they get a mention as a volunteer?
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Post by lauren on Oct 28, 2005 22:02:43 GMT -5
Actually....I'm certain that Ernest was on the bad side and Frank was on the good side
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Post by A. the Returned on Oct 29, 2005 0:12:20 GMT -5
Oh wait I got them mixed up, ok forget about the earlier theory then.
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Post by Dante on Oct 29, 2005 2:42:05 GMT -5
I (believe I) always thought that the V for Volunteer was to indicate that it was a volunteer-drawn diagram, be it as an actual family tree or some sort of V.F.D. arrangement note.
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Post by jcgsebald on Nov 1, 2005 16:23:26 GMT -5
I really think that is true though.
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Post by Grace on Nov 13, 2005 7:52:19 GMT -5
Here's what I think:
It would make more sense if "B" was the one "whereabouts unknown" but "whereabouts uninteresting" could possibly mean dead. Dead is dead, right? Or maybe this is before her death. Anyhoo...
C=Chas Snicket, whoever that is. D=Dewey Denouement, who's been a member for years. E=Ernest Denouement, who has also been a member for years F=Frank Denouement G=Geraldine Julienne H=Hector (p.98, Jacques refers to Hector as H, which leads me to believe he belongs to VFD. Plus, in every location, there was a noble member of VFD, in TVV=Hector.) I=Ike J=Jacques K=Kit L=Lemony M=The M from the meeting, not sure of this. N=?? O=Olaf. Now if this is both of the two things that some people believe, a ranking system (neophytes, veterans, etc.) and a family tree, then M and N would be O's siblings. And I'm betting on the Aura of Menaceers myself.
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Post by champ103 on Nov 13, 2005 7:55:19 GMT -5
G works better as Gregor Anwhistle, because we know he's siblings with Ike Anwhistle.
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Post by Grace on Nov 15, 2005 15:12:23 GMT -5
True that, but why would he be a neophyte? He was oldish, wasn't he? *confused* The world may never know.
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Post by Dante on Nov 15, 2005 15:34:41 GMT -5
Yes, but Ike Anwhistle was old as well. And Geraldine Julienne isn't even a member of V.F.D.
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Post by Antenora on Nov 15, 2005 15:50:11 GMT -5
Gregor could have been recruited long before Ike, or recruited at a later age. I'm not sure how much older he is than Ike, or if they're the same age.
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