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Post by Leanora Crowe on Feb 21, 2012 13:33:49 GMT -5
friendofvfd: I agree with everything you said - except possibly one thing. You said you thought Beatrice and Lemony had been split for a little while before she got together with Bertrand, but I always thought Bertrand was one of the reasons she couldn't marry Lemony. Could someone clarify this point for me, please?
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Post by Dante on Feb 21, 2012 15:00:21 GMT -5
Everything that happens in this period of time is quite unclear, but I don't think Bertrand has ever openly or indeed implicitly been suggested to have influenced Lemony and Beatrice's break-up. If you believe that Bertrand was Beatrice's co-star in My Silence Knot - who Lemony expresses suspicion of - then that does throw a different colour on certain events, but it's still not something we know.
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Post by friendofvfd on Sept 17, 2012 23:41:00 GMT -5
Okay, I know it's been many months, BUT I feel like I have to mention this. If people are still speculating about this, I still truly don't think Lemony is the bio dad of any of the kids; and I believe I also found a little more evidence I thought I should mention. And the reason is because when I read the TBL, the very last letter that Lemony gives to Beatrice is in a telegram form that was never sent. Lemony writes to Beatrice telling her that he has just found out that she is pregnant and that it's her and Bertrand's first child. He tells her "I hope you have a healthy baby girl, with your intelligence, charm." etc. etc. And later in the telegram he says, "Forgive me for contacting you one last time. After all these years, I know how dangerous it is".......
So basically, we are under the impression that it's been a VERY long time since he's seen Beatrice or Bertrand, and they are apparently about to have their first child (Violet).
So I pretty much believe that is suppose to confirm right there that Bertrand is the bio dad of all the Baudelaire kids. I thought that was the point. Sorry I know it's been a while, but I recently just reread parts of TBL and thought I would share what I just realized while reading it.
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Post by Dante on Sept 18, 2012 3:51:19 GMT -5
That's an excellent point, friendofvfd. Thank you for your contribution; it clearly isn't possible for Lemony to have been Violet's father under these circumstances.
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Post by Hermes on Sept 18, 2012 7:56:36 GMT -5
I think you can get around this one if you really want to, by reading 'After all these years' as meaning not 'the years since I last saw you' but 'the years during which which we have suffered danger together'. That's stretching things, though.
And I agree, in fact, that the telegram is meant to stop this speculation, because it marks the beginning of the 'fifteen long and lonely years' during which L did not contact B, ending at the masked ball. You might have thought this began with the breakup, which, taken along with Violet's age, might give cause for suspicion,. but the telegram shows that this is not so.
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Post by Christmas Chief on Sept 18, 2012 15:58:14 GMT -5
I think you can get around this one if you really want to, by reading 'After all these years' as meaning not 'the years since I last saw you' but 'the years during which which we have suffered danger together'. That's stretching things, though. Another way of putting this is that he says "Forgive me for contacting you one last time. After all these years ..." and not "Forgive me for contacting you one last time after all these years." (in a telegram this is a little more significant, as the only punctuation is replaced with STOP). However, I agree there's little doubt Lemony is not Violet's father given the continuity already cited. |
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