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Post by Dante on Jan 31, 2009 6:32:18 GMT -5
Given that Sir is violating the Paltryville Constitution in paying his workers in coupons, and is probably breaking child labour laws and indeed regular labour laws, I imagine he's not too keen to have the police snooping around his lumbermill.
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Post by Kount Kelsey on Feb 1, 2009 8:32:22 GMT -5
i wasnt disapointed in the 4th book at all???
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Post by Hermes on Feb 2, 2009 12:40:42 GMT -5
I wasn't disappointed either - I'm surprised that everyone seems to be so negative towards it. It's true that the plot is the same in broad outline as the previous three books (and at least the next one), but there are enough twists along the way to keep it interesting. I liked the figure of Phil, and thought it was a wonderful moment at the end when he said 'You're alive', and that that was something to be glad about, and when the Baudelaires thought about it they realised he was right. Also, although this book does not mention VFD, it does actually contain the first suggestion of a larger plot, since it mentions that Beatrice once said 'Where is Count Olaf?', showing for the first time that there is a connection between the Baudelaires' story and Lemony's own story.
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Post by Mijahu on Feb 2, 2009 16:43:17 GMT -5
hermes: I did like the mention of Beatrice's association with Olaf, but other books deliver more enticing mysteries like that by the truckload. Sure TMM may have been a start for that, but it's still a pretty bad book.
Dante: That's right, I forgot Klaus pushed the log around! And the gum...well that's as unrealistic as Sunny sticking her teeth into a stone (albeit soft) wall, I suppose, and moonlight catching something on fire. Well then it is rather stupid that nobody just pushed the log out of the way, unless maybe there were walls along the sides of the conveyor belt that prevented it from being easily rolled off.
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Post by Dante on Feb 2, 2009 17:24:19 GMT -5
As I think I explained above, nobody could push the log out of the way. They were either engaged by villains, or obstructed by villains engaged with people trying to push logs. It's not they were physically incapable of doing it; they just couldn't get near the thing.
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Post by Kount Kelsey on Feb 2, 2009 19:17:13 GMT -5
i htink peeps were disapionted with the 4th book because ............ well....... (i cant think of a reason)
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Post by Mijahu on Feb 13, 2009 23:48:31 GMT -5
Well I haven't reread TMM but from what I remember, Violet and Sunny were standing near the entrance of the mill, Klaus was in a control room-type-deal near the log someplace, and Flacutono was near Klaus. So theoretically, they could have pushed Charles/the log off of the conveyor belt, I think.
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Post by Dante on Feb 14, 2009 3:57:02 GMT -5
mijahu, I've been referring directly to the book in my above descriptions of why nobody could just shove the log out of the way. I'm not sure why you'd think your memory was more reliable than the book itself, but let me assure that if you were to reread Chapter Twelve, all of your concerns would be answered.
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Post by cwm on Feb 14, 2009 11:49:03 GMT -5
Violet moved to push the log out of the way and got caught up by Flacotuno and Shirley, who didn't let her go.
Sunny was stopped by Dr. Orwell and had to start fighting her to try and get past her.
Klaus would have had to walk directly through Orwell and Sunny to be capable of pushing the log out of the way.
I think that sums it up pretty well.
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Post by -Pepsi. on Apr 14, 2009 2:23:25 GMT -5
I found the sword fight made the book disappointing, and also the hypnosis too. I know that there is a lot more ridiculous things in the series and climbing an elevator shaft with your teeth is just as ridiculous as the sword fight, but something about the sword fight just annoyed me and made the book a little too silly. I also just didn't like the whole hypnosis thing some reason. It's not because I got bored of how the 4th book was like the first 3, it's just because I didn't like the themes, and the atmosphere.
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Post by Smooth Criminal. on Apr 24, 2009 14:22:22 GMT -5
Ahw, I've never understood why people don't like this one, haha. It's personally, one of my favorites. ): Everyone has their own opinion, though.  |
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Post by kougermasters on Apr 27, 2009 23:26:44 GMT -5
I thought the Miserable Mill was beautiful, especially when Dr. Orwell met her doom.
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Post by -Pepsi. on Apr 27, 2009 23:31:35 GMT -5
I don't mind the fourth book that much anymore. I just hate the sword fight, but some parts of it were really good... I think the 10th book was probably boring-er.
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Post by Smooth Criminal. on May 1, 2009 22:33:17 GMT -5
I think the 10th book was probably boring-er. Oh my goshh. i thought I was the only person who thought that! Seriously! I completely agree. When I got to the end, I was like, "..so that's it? okay." I was hardly even intrigued. At least, not as much as the others. |
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Post by liquidladylemony on May 5, 2009 19:00:24 GMT -5
It's b/c there was barley a plot that's why no one likes it...
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