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Post by allegedly bryan on Jul 29, 2010 11:31:23 GMT -5
No ones probably going to see this, but the way i pictured the sword fight was sunny just opening her mouth and letting the sword hit her teeth...
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Post by Dante on Jul 29, 2010 12:34:32 GMT -5
I read it the same way. How else would she do it?
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Post by allegedly bryan on Aug 2, 2010 20:14:07 GMT -5
Yeah I didn't think she was actually sticking her teeth out or something
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Post by colette on Mar 7, 2011 16:42:11 GMT -5
Many dislike TMM but I can say I like it. As for me, TMM was very interesting and exciting book! It is not my favorite book because The Carnivorous Carnival is only book in ASoUE who has this spot but TMM wasn't boring. In my opinion TAA is less interesting than TMM.
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Post by littlelaurence on Mar 10, 2011 13:04:55 GMT -5
It is very ridiculous, but it is kind of supposed to be.
For one, you can't really hypnotize someone in that way and in program command words and all that stuff - in that space of time, anyway.
And the person generally won't accept negative suggestions like the ones given to him by Dr Orwell. Klaus would have woken up from the state he was in a few times, and probably would have been very reluctant to been pushed back into a trance.
On top of that, I'm sure hypnotic suggestions couldn't be kept with the subject for such a ridiculously long time.
But the point is, it's fiction. It's designed for entertainment, and a tiny bit of education. Nothing in the book made me have to suspend my disbelief to an extent I was unhappy with.
The same thing could be said about Sunny climbing up a lift, the kids running hundreds of laps and surviving on barely any sleep, thousands of crows all perching in one village, and so on. In every single book there are a few things that are ridiculous, but the point is it's a story. It is part of the idea that the books are ludicrous. They are supposed to be ridiculous, that is where a lot of the humour can be contrived from them.
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Post by colette on Aug 7, 2011 0:39:30 GMT -5
I like all books and I think TMM is amazing. I like it more that TAA, more than TVV, more than TSS, more than The End, more than TGG, more than TWW and TRR. No, they also good but TMM is better for me, no matter what other say.
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Post by csc on Aug 7, 2011 13:00:21 GMT -5
More ridiculous than the swordfight- Klaus's stunt with the gum. What sort of super-gum would be able to do that?
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Post by Dante on Aug 7, 2011 14:13:08 GMT -5
I haven't reread TMM in a while, but I don't think I was ever really clear on why Klaus couldn't just walk over and push Charles's log out of danger. Or why it could be turned when it had a spinning saw blade embedded in it. Still, the point isn't the actual mechanics of the situation; what the scene is actually about is Klaus using his sister's skill, and saving a kind but ineffectual guardian.
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Post by csc on Aug 7, 2011 16:39:54 GMT -5
Yes, I know that, but if we're pointing out ridiculous things...
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Post by Christmas Chief on Aug 7, 2011 17:40:51 GMT -5
I haven't reread TMM in a while, but I don't think I was ever really clear on why Klaus couldn't just walk over and push Charles's log out of danger. I checked the passage, but it seems you've already addressed the issue a couple of times in this very thread: As I think I explained above, nobody could push the log out of the way. They were either engaged by villains, or obstructed by villains engaged with people trying to push logs. It's not they were physically incapable of doing it; they just couldn't get near the thing. But as for why the log was able to pivot, that seems a far more impractical, if less obvious, error. |
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Post by Dante on Aug 8, 2011 3:17:27 GMT -5
Well, good work, past me. Maybe I should've critiqued the feasibility of the log-tugging invention instead, since it doesn't seem substantial enough to do its job. But like I said above, that's not the point. Although perhaps it might've been better if Klaus could've used it to trigger a switch to deactivate the log machine, which would've eliminated any need for impossible log-twisting, and also wouldn't have required pulling nearly so much weight on such a flimsy invention. Whereas Sunny's sword-fighting is clearly meant to be absurd and we can take it as a joke.
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Post by Strangely on Aug 8, 2011 7:55:09 GMT -5
I think most of my dislike for TMM came from that big confrontation, there's just so much wrong with it. When reading that chapter I kept on waiting for Klaus to just pull the log away, or turn off the power, but instead he invented something which was just odd and out of character. Also notably it felt like Klaus was glued to one spot, I mean there was only like three villains there and he didn't really make a move.
That sword fight was too odd even for a Snicket book too. Dr. Orwell would have to be aiming at Sunny's mouth in order to only be hitting teeth, and even then teeth aren't that big so it seems fantastically impossible even for a book that Sunny wouldn't get hurt.
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Post by Christmas Chief on Aug 8, 2011 8:15:37 GMT -5
I think most of my dislike for TMM came from that big confrontation, there's just so much wrong with it. When reading that chapter I kept on waiting for Klaus to just pull the log away, or turn off the power, but instead he invented something which was just odd and out of character. Also notably it felt like Klaus was glued to one spot, I mean there was only like three villains there and he didn't really make a move. The point of the scene was for Klaus to do something out of character, as I think we've discussed above, but I agree his solution was flawed. While walking around the villains may have attracted attention, surely there was a better way to go about it, such as the possibility Dante proposed? Ah, but this was a joke; we're meant to laugh at the sheer absurdity you've observed. Although I can see how one might take it otherwise, since nothing else in the scene meets this level of wild impracticality. |
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Post by Dante on Aug 8, 2011 8:40:47 GMT -5
Well, Olaf and Flacutono were just pulling Violet's arms in a tug-of-war, as I recall it, which is pretty silly - not actually impossible, but fairly ludicrous. So I think the parts of the confrontation that the scene isn't focussing on, i.e. anything to do with Klaus, are made to be funny to excuse the fact that they're only drawn lightly and can't be followed in much detail. It's by far the most impossible thing Sunny ever does with her teeth, but it's definitely funny, and within the context in which it's situated then I can buy it.
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Post by colette on Aug 8, 2011 8:55:27 GMT -5
@dante, I loved when Flacutono and Shirley pulled Violet's arms. It was my favorite moment!
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