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Post by JTB on Sept 4, 2009 10:53:10 GMT -5
I was visiting Lemony Snicket's official site and while I was browsing through the books, I checked out The Loathsome Library (should've been TPP's name, in my opinion). Does anyone have any scans of the box? The picture on the site is too little, and I ran a search and couldn't find any, either.
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Post by Dante on Sept 4, 2009 11:23:29 GMT -5
There are some on 667 somewhere. I'll try and find them.
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Post by JTB on Sept 4, 2009 11:46:29 GMT -5
Danke, Herr Dante.  |
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Post by Dante on Sept 4, 2009 12:00:48 GMT -5
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Post by Liam R. Findlay on Aug 25, 2019 10:48:19 GMT -5
I hope it's not unruly to reply on a thread from a decade ago. We have this image from the Loathsome Library: i.imgur.com/zEryAkr.jpgBut it's cropped at the bottom. The original image has the table visible. Does anybody happen to have access to The Loathsome Library, so that they could share the full views of its sides? Thanks! |
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Post by Mr. Dent on Aug 26, 2019 7:22:55 GMT -5
I remember seeing this image floating around when the Netflix series was first confirmed, although I can't recall if it were the cropped or full version.
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Post by Foxy on Aug 26, 2019 11:34:12 GMT -5
Wow, I've never seen that one before! Who are the people?
The two on the left look like the man with the beard but no hair and the woman with the hair but no beard, and if you ask me, TMWTBBNH looks like a dead ringer for Count Olaf's older brother.
No wait, no wait! Is that the troupe? Bald man, person of indeterminate gender, white faced women, hook handed man?
What is the Loathsome Library?
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Post by Mr. Dent on Aug 26, 2019 19:04:49 GMT -5
The Loathsome Library was a box of the first six books, and the art is indeed of Olaf, the Baudelaires and the troupe. I believe the woman with her face covered is Esme, as Helquist used to draw her with her face obscured in that manner
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Post by Liam R. Findlay on Aug 27, 2019 4:45:58 GMT -5
I think the hidden lady is the other white-faced woman, as Helquist painted her with pearls and a blue dress in the Marvelous Marriage poster. |
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Post by Foxy on Aug 27, 2019 7:51:32 GMT -5
Either way, how did I never catch Esme's face always being obscured?! Now I have to go back in all the books and look. Do we know why he did that?
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Post by Uncle Algernon on Aug 27, 2019 14:40:14 GMT -5
Either way, how did I never catch Esme's face always being obscured?! Now I have to go back in all the books and look. Do we know why he did that? Possibly to emphasize that she's all appearances and no soul? I checked out The Loathsome Library (should've been TPP's name, in my opinion). Ah, but the library itself wasn't loathsome. The Horrible Hotel is more like it. Or The Hellish Hotel. That'd be quite fitting, actually, now that I think about it. It ends up in flames, all the "past" characters are there (not unlike all the people from History and from one's life that one meets if visiting Dante's inferno… that's Dante the poet, not Dante, obviously… say! perhaps too optimistic, but is it possible that the reference to Dante-the-poet in Netflix's TVV Part 1 was a sneaky allusion to you?), it's a place where Count Olaf is to be judged for his sins, and it is presided over by the two-dead Devil figure of the Sinister Duo. Huh. |
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Post by Foxy on Aug 28, 2019 6:32:52 GMT -5
The Horrible Hotel is more like it. Or The Hellish Hotel. I get your point, but at that point Snicket had already used the alliterative H for The Hostile Hospital. There were no repeats of first letter use until TE, which we are still able to differentiate from TEE because of the different amount of E. I still feel a little cheated about not getting an alliterative title, even after all these years. |
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Post by crono288 on Aug 28, 2019 15:27:54 GMT -5
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Post by Liam R. Findlay on Aug 30, 2019 7:02:00 GMT -5
That's fantastic! Thank you very much! Exactly what I was looking for.
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Post by Dante on Sept 1, 2019 4:43:58 GMT -5
I think the hidden lady is the other white-faced woman, as Helquist painted her with pearls and a blue dress in the Marvelous Marriage poster. It's quietly amazing to me that Helquist only ever drew the majority of these characters twice, but had a clear visual image for them nonetheless. I often regret that we didn't get more character art in ASoUE. Which leads me to my next point: Either way, how did I never catch Esme's face always being obscured?! Now I have to go back in all the books and look. Do we know why he did that? I'm not sure it's necessarily true that Esmé's face is always obscured; her face is quite visible, if undetailed, in the Chapter Ten illustration of TEE (and the front cover of the Egmont edition). I think it would be more accurate to say that Helquist quite often drew characters with their faces obscured in general; and indeed often seemed reluctant to provide character art at all. Consider, for instance, the way Hector is conspicuously concealed behind Fowl Fountain in the centrepiece illustration of TVV, with just his legs visible. And that's still more than most characters get! |
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