Post by Very Funky Disco on Jan 31, 2012 10:52:27 GMT -5
I think there were quite a few subtle clues given that, even though Count Olaf definitely was after the Baudelaire fortune - he also wanted Violet for other reasons, to put it politely. I think, since kids were the target audience of the series, Daniel Handler couldn't explicitly mention that - but I do think it was implied.
Of course he did! In my ficverse, he is Swedish-Catholic, and at some point in his adulthood, he chose not to practise his beliefs anymore. Enter Kit, whom he first met when she was fourteen years old. After they broke up, he longed to be with her again, and I suppose Violet, being the same age, reminded him of her.
The Bad Beginning is heavily influenced by gothic novels, in which the villains are always out to both disinherit and dishonour the virtuous heroine. So I think Olaf's behaviour is a clear reference to that, and in general he's just a really seedy guy.
Post by Sherry Ann on Jan 31, 2012 16:45:31 GMT -5
One of the articles posted here addresses the issue at one point, and I'll agree the subtext of some of Olaf's threats can be read in more ways than one. As a literary mechanism, it's fascinating. As a character trait, it's quite disturbing.
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Absolutely. Though I feel Olaf's prime motivation was acquirement of the fortune, I do believe he regarded Violet in a carnal manner. She may have incorporated a "thrill of the chase", per se. Her company, to define it gently, would have been an additional source of pleasure to coincide with the fortune. If I recall correctly, he blatantly stated that he and his bride were "off to enjoy their wedding night", of which the connotations are quite evident. And yes, Handler consistently suggests Olaf's attraction to her physical beauty. The aforementioned article - which is a lovely read! - thoroughly summarizes these implications. A golden line for me was:
'You can't try that trick again,' he sneered. 'I'm not going to bargain with an orphan, no matter how pretty she may be'" (GG 198). Realizing that he loses control of himself and his plans when confronted with Violet's attractiveness, Olaf attempts to reassert himself in a dominant position vis-à-vis the comely orphan.
Very, very interesting and astute observation, and certainly one I concur with. The notion of Olaf being so disconcerted by Violet's beauty, that he would be willing to jeopardize the Baudelaire fortune - his prime motivation throughout the series! - is very intriguing. Just how many doors it opens for a character study is infinite.
So, in conclusion, yes! I do believe Olaf sought Violet for lecherous purposes.
I agree with Alycia96. His main goal was the fortune, but Violet was a nice bonus...
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Post by Leanora Crowe on Feb 21, 2012 13:38:26 GMT -5
I believe the fortune was his sole motivation for coming up with the plan to marry Violet, but after he had cemented his plan, he realized that he would have certain...rights once he married Violet. This gave him an extra drive, I guess you'd say. This might just be restating above opinions, but I just wanted to be clear.
As much I want to believe he just wanted the fortune I have to agree with others and say yes, he did want more. I mean, he's just that kinda guy. Plus the whole Kit thing. I think it is certainly hinted (or least there for us older readers to pick up on) that he isn't just after a great sum of money. Then again with money comes girls so he could probably pay anyone he wanted....Certainly an interesting, creepy, question to think about.
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