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Post by Groge on Mar 5, 2012 11:28:04 GMT -5
Haha! Anyway....! Yeah as much as you love him he's a big creep!
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Ms.Unfortunate
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It is IMPOSIBLE to NEED something you WANT... because what you WANT Is something you do not NEED..
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Post by Ms.Unfortunate on Mar 8, 2012 20:33:01 GMT -5
[shadow=red,left,300][/shadow] Of course he just wanted the fortune he is an evil man but VERY clever. I do admire his clever work.
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Post by Groge on Mar 9, 2012 8:51:43 GMT -5
Yeah he is very very clever! Its not that his plans and disguises are bad its just the Baudelaires are smarter and see right through him, especially when they work together. If it wasn't for them being so smart Olaf would have got the fortune in TBB with ease! His plans are really quite genius haha  |
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Post by rougecoco on Mar 27, 2012 12:53:55 GMT -5
I'm a bit late in commenting on this, but I have to speak out, I definately think that Olaf wanted a lot more than was totally revealed in the books  But there was a tension in the books to me, that was utterly delightful between them! |
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Post by colette on Mar 29, 2012 4:06:00 GMT -5
I am for "just fortune". The other variant is TOO unpleasant and terrible for me!
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Post by Groge on Mar 29, 2012 4:29:33 GMT -5
I am for "just fortune". The other variant is TOO unpleasant and terrible for me! However you cannot escape the truth! |
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Post by colette on Mar 30, 2012 3:10:14 GMT -5
I am for "just fortune". The other variant is TOO unpleasant and terrible for me! However you cannot escape the truth! But I WANT!!!! |
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Post by Dante on May 20, 2012 10:59:52 GMT -5
So you are suggesting that Olaf's plans were also a way of getting back at friends and sympathisers of the Baudelaires? I can well believe that.
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Post by Christmas Chief on May 20, 2012 13:46:05 GMT -5
Olaf's duality of purpose is perhaps appropriate. Consider Uncle Monty's death: was he murdered simply so Olaf could take over as the Baudelaire's guardian, or did he have something against Monty himself? Probably the former was Olaf's main purpose, and vengeance was considered a happy aftermath.
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Post by Marlowe on Jun 12, 2020 22:34:09 GMT -5
Hate to bump an old thread like this, but I had been considering the same question, more or less, during a re-read. I frankly don't have a concrete answer: the predatory subtext to Olaf's dialogue in TBB and some of the later books are pretty unmissable, but his genuine (IMO) love for Kit seems like a blatant retcon of the suggestion that he's a pedophile.
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Post by Uncle Algernon on Jun 12, 2020 23:21:40 GMT -5
I mean, I don't know about *that*. It's not as though being a pedophile means one *cannot* be romantically attached to an adult.
At any rate, as for my own answer to the question posed by this thread, I suppose I'd take the middle-of-the-road position that Olaf was intentionally hinting at such things so as to unsettle Violet, and may have even told himself he might go through with it to hurt her further, but that 1) he didn't desire her as an end unto itself, and 2) there is a decent chance he would have stopped short of actually doing the deed.
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Post by Optimism is my Phil-osophy on Jun 13, 2020 1:53:52 GMT -5
I don't like Olaf, but I never saw him as a pedophile. Other characters have already spoken of Violet as being the most beautiful, but I have not seen sexual suggestion in that sense. It is horrible to think of Olaf as a pedophile, it gives me the chills to even think about it ... Especially knowing that he chose to kill Violet and Klaus and stay with Sunny in T.C.C. I refuse to think that Daiel Handler even considered something like that, even for his villain. From TGG, Olaf is portrayed as a villain with some kind of justification and who was not always a villain. According to Fernald, even Olaf could act nobly from time to time. I don't think this speech would match a pedophile, if Daniel Handler had imagined Olaf as such. Olaf however is a kidnapper and killer of children, which does not make him a less bad monster, but at least makes him a villain with villainous motivations more linked to evil plans than to unnatural lust.
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