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Post by B. on Jan 31, 2012 14:56:29 GMT -5
I guess the books are 8+ in the same kind of way that ASOUE is 8-9+.......on the surface, they are very much a children's series. And the first few books do seem that way, simple plot lines with the villain constantly chasing the unfortunate orphans. It really ticks me off when people judge ASOUE by those first few books, how the dub it "A kids series." If they looked closer they would see a much deeper, intelligent plot-line, all the literacy allusions an the whole concept of VFD....the world would be a better place if more people had read these books! When I first read the books aged 9, I only saw a story of three orphans. Re-reading them now, I can see there is so much more to them.
Still, some interesting information. I think we should take all this with a pinch of salt though, it may be true, but there is every possibility circumstances will change.
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Post by Christmas Chief on Jan 31, 2012 16:39:24 GMT -5
That's an inspiring find, but I wonder why it's listed as paperback? I can't get the catalog to load, so I don't know the contexts of the listings, but unless it's a publication geared toward certain institutions - elementary schools, say - I can't see why it would be marketed for paperback before hardback.
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Post by Dante on Jan 31, 2012 16:50:59 GMT -5
Well, the primary release format of every book in the series, in the U.K. and the U.S., was paper-over-board, a sort of hybrid form between paperback and hardback, so we can't rule out the possibility that "p/b" means that, either directly or because they don't have a term for it; it could also be another holdover from the apparently copy-pasted information from TBB, which in the catalogue is in its paperback incarnation. But there's also the fact that the series started off with thin books and may do so again, which is kind of an argument in itself against a gratuitously expensive hardback release, which I suspect the publishers suspect may put off their primary audience of children and parents who buy for their children, outside of obvious gift books like Snicket's Christmas offerings. I'd almost be more surprised if the new books were released in hardback first / at all, actually, now that I think about it. But again, we can rule nothing in or out. That's for the fashion magazines to decide.
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Post by Christmas Chief on Jan 31, 2012 17:02:01 GMT -5
Ah, okay, p/b is more ambiguous than "paperback." However, I don't think many books, especially books by a prominent author, are originally released as paperback, particularly not at such a reasonable price. Although it's true ASOUE somewhat revolutionized book marketing with the paper-over-board format, so they might do something similar again except this time in paperback mode. It just seems to me as though Egmont would want to take advantage of the fans willing to buy Snicket books early before re-marketing to new audiences.
Edit: All right, I got it to load. It does say "More details coming soon" rather enthusiastically, which is something to look forward to, at least. It does appear as though "p/b" does translate to paperback; however, as you say, that's nothing to count on.
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Post by csc on Feb 2, 2012 18:33:30 GMT -5
Amazing find, Dante! I just wonder how accurate this information is...
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Post by Dante on Feb 3, 2012 5:40:42 GMT -5
Honestly, the only bit I'm really putting any value on is the September release date, as that's the only bit they didn't just copy and paste from their entry for TBB.
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Post by B. on Feb 3, 2012 11:54:04 GMT -5
Just a bit back onto the subject of illustrations: If it's not Brett Helquist, there's every possibility it could be Chris Riddell www.stewartandriddell.co.uk/. I can imagine him illustrating them. Anyone else agree? |
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Post by Invisible on Feb 3, 2012 12:41:32 GMT -5
I have the first in the Edge Chronicles on audiotape! But I think I've lost it  |
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Post by Dante on Feb 3, 2012 13:23:16 GMT -5
From what I've seen of Chris Riddell's work, it's not bad, by which I mean it's not entirely different from Helquist's in style. But I'm sure there must be many other candidates.
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Post by Dante on Feb 13, 2012 8:08:06 GMT -5
This thread is now chiefly to discuss all upcoming books that aren't a part of ATWQ, since they have a pretty well-defined release schedule and we all know that they exist. In other words, this thread should highlight anything that's a little more obscure.
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Post by Dante on Feb 21, 2012 5:34:34 GMT -5
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Post by B. on Feb 21, 2012 11:01:21 GMT -5
I suspect there will be new material? A new cover? Although there probably won't be anything as revealing as TBBRE Notes though.
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Post by Dante on Feb 21, 2012 11:26:44 GMT -5
It's a bit mysterious. Certainly HC isn't making a big deal out of it - yet. If I were them, I would be making a new edition of TBB which combines the material from the Rare Edition with the material from Orphans!, and the fact that Kupperman's listed as an illustrator may indicate that the latter is correct - although on the other hand, marketing websites have gotten confused by the paperbacks and slapped his name on a lot of ASoUE editions that he had nothing to do with. And the Rare Edition Author's Notes ended up being not especially pertinent, even if they were interesting. I'm expecting a redone cover at the very least, anyway - but for the sake of my sanity, am expecting nothing more.
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Post by B. on Feb 21, 2012 11:52:33 GMT -5
I don't think they could (or would) make an edition combining the things in Orphans! and the TBBRE notes, because then the value of TBBRE would plummet and mess up all the sales on Amazon and Ebay.
If Kupperman is indeed the illustrator, then I would wager it will probably be a new edition of TBB released to begin promotion of ATWQ. Probably also with a new cover and the extras from Orphans!
However, HC could very well be inaccurate. Look at how inaccurate the catalogue info on ATWQ was for Egmont.
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Post by Christmas Chief on Feb 21, 2012 15:19:34 GMT -5
I don't think they have to worry about either BB:RE or Orphans! sales; it's my understanding the latter did poorly in the market, and the former is out of print. Now, whether it will promote ATWQ ... LS.com hasn't updated, and it doesn't appear as though they're going to, which means HC will not be promoting books sold by another publisher. I wonder if Little Brown will return the favor?
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